1 dead and multiple injured in shooting following Chiefs Super Bowl parade

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  1. Turtledude

    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    what was the purpose of that comment other than to try to ridicule what the anti gun left claims is the only solution conservatives have to mass shootings?
     
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    Our murder rate in the US for just knives is about the same as your entire murder rate. We have a violence problem, not a gun problem.

    Consider Wyoming has a firearm ownership rate of 66% with very few firearm related laws. Their homicide rate is around 1/100,000. Illinois has a firearm ownership rate of about 28% with all kinds of restrictions on firearms. Their homicide rate is over 12/100,000.

    I can’t understand how you folks can preach causal relationships between firearms availability and homicide rates when in so many cases there is an inverse correlation. If your theories were sound, Wyoming would have one of the highest homicide rates in the US instead of one of the lowest.
     
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    We did have. For a long time.
    It never stopped shootings. AS is my point.

    The problem with capital death punishment, is many were often executed that were later found innocent.
    Due to systemic racism rampant in the country.
     
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    thoughts and prayers.
    Healing words. I've told you that before. Why do you never understand posts you respond to?
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    well the death penalty has a lot in common with the gun control movement. Proponents of both claim the laws will stop crime and both are wrong. the one advantage death penalty advocates have is that those executed never commit another crime. and yes, another similarity is that the laws often punish the innocent-the difference being is that the DP is not designed to punish the innocent but that sometimes happens. Gun control laws-as fashioned by the left-are DESIGNED to punish those who don't commit crimes with guns
     
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    I call bullshit on that-others could see that this claim of yours is designed to mock conservatives who gun control advocates claim only propose "thoughts and prayers" as a solution to gun violence.
     
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    same with New Hampshire-the live free or die state vs say Maryland-one of the main anti gun bastions of leftist thought. Last I checked Maryland's murder rate was ten times that of New Hampshire
     
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    Racism? Do POCs get always go to court with white prosecutors, judges and juries? Why not blame it on global warming and be done with it?

    My problem with the death penalty as a deterrent is that when the murderer is finally executed many years/decades later no one remembers him. I think the DP should be swiftly carried out when there is NO DOUBT who committed the murder, the rest of the DP cases can be handled in the current inefficient way.
     
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    The two minors involved in this shooting were hit with gun related charges.
     
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    I don't have the patience to read this entire thread, but the news said two juveniles were arrested. So my question is are they going to also charge their mothers??
     
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    Whether they are innocent or not.

    Especially if they are black, who cares. AMIRITE
     
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    Any thoughts on the effectiveness of car gun safes with respect to smash and grab gun theft from cars?
     
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    Thoughts and prayers.
     
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    LoL you thought Kansas City was in Kansas.
     
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    That explains the violence.
     
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    For most that would be true.
    Not for those blacks though, AMIRITE
     
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    Goodness when can we admit the facts of a freaking case. The shooter was indeed black, unfortunately in most of these cities, the overwhelming majority of the shooters are black. Do you really think it's going to make the problem better if you can't admit that?
     
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    Guess whose idea NICS was.

    Pretty sure the NRA has never said we should provide guns to minors in gangs. That's more of a democrat thing.
     
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    Kind of funny you went after me because I pointed out how lefty city policy has created a poor city, the result is crime, and the majority of inner cities are black. Now you say the lack of raising their kids properly (hence black kids resorting to crime) is due lack of funding. Let me help you out here, that is exactly what I said.
     
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    depends on the safe. some of my hard core shotgun competitors have safes in their trucks that are bolted to the cargo bed and are pretty stout. I used to keep a small instant access safe in my car-worthless if someone breaks in but it was CYA for traveling-if it was locked up it met the requirements for traveling through hostile states like Illinois for traveling. I have seen some safes that have like a bike cable that you secure to say a seat or the part of the trunk that opens and closes the lid-they can be defeated with bolt cutters.
     
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    Why just blacks? Do you have a jones for everyone who isn't?
     
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    I also took shots at other groups in my post too, so don’t forget that.
     
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    Hmmm but then they are a dictatorship which is never known for truth.

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    It always seems to upset right wingers when you post stats like this
     
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    Research has shown that the death penalty does diddly squat to prevent crime in any event.
    https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/policy-issues/deterrence

     

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