1 dead and multiple injured in shooting following Chiefs Super Bowl parade

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  1. Turtledude

    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    well gun banners have no problems in punishing or harassing millions of innocent people on the pretense that doing so will disarm those who already are banned from owning guns and disobey malum per se laws against mayhem and murder
     
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    NBA demographic, as usual.
     
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    I'm not saying they shouldn't have an appeal (as in 1) if new evidence comes to light. Having said that, there will always be the chance that a jury could get it wrong. A sad reality. Does that mean we shouldn't take horrible violent murderers off the face of the earth?

    Besides, I think when someone gets the death penalty, it's pretty damn certain that they did it.
     
  4. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I just want to clarify something....the pic I posted of the alleged shooter was not the shooter. Apologies.

    Kansas City Chiefs fan seen in cuffs was not shooter: ‘I was just enjoying myself like everybody else’

    A Kansas City Chiefs fan who was detained at the team’s Super Bowl victory parade has spoken out to clear his name after social media users wrongly identified him as one of the gunmen in the deadly shooting that broke out during the festivities: “I was just enjoying myself like everybody else.”

    Denton Loudermill, a father from Olathe, Kansas, was photographed in a red sweatshirt surrounded by police officers shortly after the mass shooting erupted at the rally Wednesday.

    He went viral for all the wrong reasons, with captions falsely claiming he was one of the gunmen who were apprehended during the ensuing chaos, KSHB reported.

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    https://nypost.com/2024/02/19/us-ne...-in-cuffs-after-shooting-seeks-to-clear-name/
     
  5. Andrew Jackson

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    Yeah...
    That is the problem with posting before doing diligent research...
    Not a goid idea to rush and post the first thing that shows up on social media (before checking it out one's self)...
    Lesson learned, and everybody moves on...
    But, you are correct--That post didn't age well...
     
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    Oh God! What a load of BS!

    Yes! AR15s are a weapon of war! They are a weapon in the war between the NRA and gun fanatics against innocent people including school children.

    Now that you have listed your STRAWMAN nonsense, how about addressing REAL arguments.

    AR15s and other assault weapons (Yes!!! I DID say "assault weapons"... oh the blasphemy!) make it EASY for anybody to kill many people in a short amount of time. Who gives A CRAP if they're weapons of war or not!

    ANYTHING we can do to save lives is more important than hunting, or target practice, or... any of the other nonsense you can throw in.

    And the dead are NOT the only victims of mass shootings. Many of those shot in the parade were children. They will suffer the consequences all their lives. People around them who were NOT shot will carry consequences. Children who were not even there will be weary to celebrate in a parade.

    There is not a teacher in the country who does not have a story about the time they thought there was a shooter in the building. Children are pushed into closets fearing for their lives because... an acorn hit the roof of a car and it sounded like a gun shot.

    Why do we live like this? Because somebody might want an assault wepon for hunting? Because we first need to find out if they are used in wars or not?

    The FIRST priority is the welfare of our children! And I DON'T mean just that they won't get killed. I'm talking about children who are impacted by the policies of the NRA and gun fanatics even if they have NEVER been anywhere near a mass shooting.
     
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  7. Turtledude

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    and you claim I have made straw man arguments?

    hysterics aside, banning guns won't do anything to save children, want to save children? crack down on irresponsible parenting
     
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    Truly amazing which stories the MSM want to push and what they want buried once you see the perps:)

    Deadly shootings are terrible…when it’s a white guy. If it’s a minority or LGBT, make that **** go away fast.

    it’s so transparent and VILE!!
     
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    So it's the parent's fault if their child gets killed in school shooting?

    Dear God!!!!

    Yeah... blame it on anybody... So long as you don't have to admit that this insane gun culture that the NRA and gun fanatics have driven us into is the REAL culprit.
     
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    When the shooters aren’t trannies or gang bangers, how many of them are with the NRA or are gun fanatics?

    And your first sentence was intentionally worded to make it look like TD said something he didn’t say.
     
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    One poster blames the parents, the other simply blurts out homophobic bigotry...

    ANYTHING to avoid addressing the real problem: our insane gun culture. And the ones caught in the middle are innocent victims.
     
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    Trannies actually shot people, the NRA didn't.
     
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    oh the drama-NO IT IS THE FAULT of PARENTS WHO TURN OUT CRIMINAL CHILDREN.

    you want to blame the NRA when it has NOTHING to do with these shootings.
     
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    yeah he clearly ignored that I was talking about parents who turn out thuggish kids, not that I blamed a parent whose child is a victim of a shooting. Thanks for pointing that out
     
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    you are falsely claiming I am blaming the parents of the victims-I was blaming the parents of the shooter. And I suspect you know that
     
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    that's because car owners and the AAA don't normally support only the GOP. If they did, I am sure many Democrats would be all about banning cars that can go faster than the speed limit
     
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    The NRA didn't do the shooting. They only facilitated it
     
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    How?
     
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    There you go. Blame ANYBODY for the epidemic ... anything other than looking for solutions.

    The NRA facilitated the shootings. They are the drug-pushers in the gun epidemic that we live in.
     
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    In the drug epidemic, the kid who uses drugs killed themselves. But the kids would be alive if it weren't for the drug pushers. The NRA are the drug pushers in the gun epidemic. And so are politicians who give priority to getting themselves re-elected over the life of children. Shameful!
     
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    One assumes that if the NRA never existed, the Second amendment never would have been enacted because the founding fathers traveled 100 years forward in time to meet with the people who created the NRA =and asked them if they wanted a constitutional amendment protecting the rights of citizens to keep and bear arms.
     
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    The NRA was the organization that pushed the misinterpretation of the 2nd A. People didn't INCORRECTLY interpret the 2nd A to refer to owning guns until the NRA used twisted it to be used as their propaganda tool.
     
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    The NRA's interpretation of the second amendment is the proper one and since you claim it was not adopted until Heller, then how can you blame the NRA for gun "proliferation" which started with the start of the industrial age? The average American has always believed that the second amendment was in individual right. that was not even controversial until leftwing progressives, culminating with FDR-started pretending that the second amendment only guaranteed a collective right.
    https://news.gallup.com/poll/105721/public-believes-americans-right-own-guns.aspx
     
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    I can twist the 2A into saying I'm allowed to own a nuclear ICBM....but lawmakers prevented that. If people can have guns, sadly, it's the lawmakers who allow them to have them. Whatever your beef is, it's not with the NRA, they're literally a civil rights organization who should be backed up by the ACLU.
     
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