1 dead and multiple injured in shooting following Chiefs Super Bowl parade

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  1. Turtledude

    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    we should take a poll-whose posts are in knots trying to misinterpret the second amendment and deny it's obvious intent. I have asked you why the founders would even contemplate protecting the right to keep and bear arms but not denying the government the power to ban ownership. It's illogical and counter to practical reality
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    why tell inaccurate things, the NRA has pushed for harsh sentences for felons caught with guns. It was Leftwing organs such as the ACLU and NAACP that complained about federal prosecutions of mopes caught with guns. How is there UNFETTERED ACCESS TO GUNS

    btw we have had posters who blame the NRA for the deaths. such posts were made in the last two days

    this ought to be funny to read
     
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    I wouldn't say all of FL has this issue., but I don't think harsher penalties would decreased teenage crime.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    You want to define reality using POLLS?

    Actually.... it figures.... given that your are unable to define reality using reality....

    Rational people make points by making points. Not with polls. I have made mine. I have even told you of an EASY way to rebut what I AM saying. Easy, that is, if it WERE rebuttable. But since you know you can't rebut it, you keep making up and ascribing to me fabricated statements that I HAVEN'T made.

    That is the very definition of tying yourself in knots.

    The ONLY way to prove me wrong is easy: QUOTE what I DO say... and rebut THAT. But you can't.... so you expect that you'll do better using polls.
     
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    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So, it was an argument between strangers, which was settled in an firefight since everyone was armed.

    Kansas City Chiefs parade mass shooting: 2 adults arrested for murder

    https://www.yahoo.com/gma/kansas-city-chiefs-parade-mass-201400324.html
    Dominic Miller and Lyndell Mays each face charges of second-degree murder, two counts of armed criminal action and unlawful use of a weapon, Jackson County Prosecutor Jean Peters Baker said, noting that paradegoer Lisa Lopez-Galvan was fatally shot by a bullet from Miller's gun.

    It appears Mays was in a "verbal argument" at the parade with someone he had no prior history with, Baker said at a news conference. "That argument very quickly escalated to Mays" pulling out his handgun, and "almost immediately, others pulled their firearms," including Miller, Baker said.

    Both men are in the hospital for injuries sustained in the shooting, Baker said. Both are being held on a $1 million bond, according to Baker.


     
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    Make up whatever you want:
    Here are the FCATS:
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    how often do you think relief is granted? and I guess you want to ignore the following (oh btw selling machine guns isn't objectively harmful and unless we know the facts, it's not necessarily a crime of violence).

    https://ojjdp.ojp.gov/sites/g/files/xyckuh176/files/pubs/gun_violence/profile38.html

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Exile

    The NRA lobbied the U.S. Congress to help secure $2.3 million for emulation of Exile in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, and Camden County, New Jersey, where similar firearms-related violence has plagued the communities. The NRA has remained a strong supporter of the program as its focus is on severely punishing all gun crimes especially illegal possession
     
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    There are over 400 million guns in America - what is the democrats plan to stop gun violence? Even if the left got rid of every gun in America, they'd be (surprise surprise) smuggled in through Mexico, and what that happens, the guns won't be going to law abiding people.
     
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    Now you make up “how often do you think relief is granted”……Thats NOT what was being debated. YOU claimed that the NRA supported taking guns away from convicts, when in reality they supported putting guns back in their hands

    Then you post a WIKI on a single town to somehow show the NRA cares about people ? The NRA is a financial lobby for the gun manufacturers.
     
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    violent convicts-pay attention. the second part of your claim is the typical anti gun mantra that has been disproven. The anti gun movement is far more a lobby for the creeping crud of collectivism and the criminals than the NRA is for the "gun manufacturers".
     
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    So NOW it’s “”it’s been disproven”, when it hasn’t. I showed how the NRA is not doing what you claim….

    Have a nice day
     
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    why do gun banners think it is an effective tactic to claim the NRA is merely a lobby for gun makers? the only way that has any rational value is if gun banners are exactly that-they think the lawful manufacturing of guns should be ended. And WE KNOW THAT, Gun banners never explain why there is some sort of dichotomy between guns being available for sale by dealers and makers and citizens being able to buy them. And yes, the anti gun movement is obviously a wing of the leftwing authoritarian movement.
     
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    So you couldn’t defend the OP, so now you want to move the goalposts…

    You create a false narrative in your first sentence. The NRA IS a lobby for gun manufacturers. To claim otherwise is beyond disingenuous.

    https://amarkfoundation.org/reports/who-funds-the-nra/
    You will note that Gun Manufactures are also the largest “donations” to the NRA
     
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    So gang violence using illegally obtained guns? Let’s bet. You think these fellers are NRA toting white flag waving Republicans:) hehe. Not from the names.
     
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    yet the single biggest source of funds is membership dues. can you explain -from the mind of a gun banner-why you think it is an effective insult of the NRA to claim it lobbies for gun makers (and while you are at it-tell me how that is different than lobbying for us citizens being able to buy and own guns-you pretend its a dichotomy) unless you all hate the gun making industry

    gun banners lobby for violent felons and dictators
     
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    Oh you didn't know? Gang members get their weapons from Cabella's. It usually goes something like "yo, I need a weapon thats good for bringing down cryps, what do you recommend sir? Also, here is my ID so you can tie this gun to my name (in case its a sloppy gangbang job, you know how it goes). Thank you sir!
     
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    Didn’t you know anyone can just walk into a Wallmart and buy a gun, some ammo then shoot someone an hour later? leftsits told me so:)
     
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    He was looked at funny.
    What is wrong with these idiots?
     
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    Whoops. They were supposed to be MAGA white dudes. CNN, MSNBC and all the rest of the race baiters are so angry!!
     
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    Isn’t it AMAZING how the MSM didn’t want to reveal their faces or names because they were just minors? Whoops. The real reason is because they were da da duuuuum, protected class. And they were adults too, hehe.

    Certainly didn’t stop the MSM from releasing the names and faces of a particular underage white boy who protected himself from violent animals back during the BLM riots. Didn’t protect another white boy who simply SMILED at a Native American banging a drum in his face. Never stops when revealing the identities of white mass shooters, but it’s ALWAYS hidden when it’s one of those victim classes? Time and time again.

    When are Leftsits going to just admit you’re all agenda driven political hypocrites? Oh yeah…and bigots for thinking it’s perfectly FINE to approve of this policy? How many times does it need to happen before you admit how completely biased and phony the MSM is?
     
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