Macron says ‘nothing ruled out,’ including using Western troops, to stop Russia winning Ukraine war

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  1. AARguy

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    What conflicts have NATO/US started since WWII?
    Please name any you think NATO or US started. Be specific please.
     
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    What wars has US/NATO started? Please explain.
     
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    I don't feel threatened by Russia. I feel threatened by those determined to wage global war with them.
     
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    Macron is just talking ****. He isn't going to send French troops to the battlefield.
     
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    "I'd rather have a German division in front of me, than a French one behind." Geneal George S. Patton
     
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    Are we ready? No probably not yet - UK certainly needs to prepare
    Are we preparing? as you can see by the nature of the wake-up call presented by Macron we should be

    For me the rhetorical question is more like what are allies prepared to do to help other allies in such circumstances.
     
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    Before the invasion much of the population in the East of Ukraine considered themselves Russian anyway. The occupied land should be neutral, neither Russian or Ukrainian. Ukraine has always been a mash up of various regions artificially united
     
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    I fully support British, French, German and Belgian troops deploying to the battlefield.
     
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    If the French fight in Ukraine, there will be plenty of French weapons available. Never fired and only dropped once.
     
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    I fully support USA troop deployment in Ukraine
     
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    ....well.....let's not rush ahead....we're not quite there yet, there are a shed load of stages to go through before that becomes a serious discussion. Question....did you actually ready Marcon's speech by any chance? I say that because judging by the nature of your comments I would hazard not. Would you like a link to the gist of it? I think Marcon's narrative is aimed at preparing EU/Western NATO members for the consideration that under a trump government the US will not abide by its' treaty requirements, Indeed there is talk amongst top military and intelligence analysts that the US under trump may need to be considered a hostile state, for example viewed through the lens of the 5 Eyes or AUKUS agreements, thus you begin to understand the reasoning behind the Macron rhetoric...it's a wake up call...Macron is not leading his forces onto the battlefield just yet. Whatever one thinks of that narrative should probably be predicated on ones view of trump and his relationship with russia and putin (and the possible reactions from the non-NATO countries); being at best transactional in nature in which case one must prepare for and discount any existing treaty agreements that the US has previously agreed to. It is highly likely that under Trump US foreign and military policy will become very chaotic and extremely disjointed.
     
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    Macron didn't say anything about NATO, or the US (probably because no one relies on US/NATO under Trump), and he also said there are no plans to send any European troops, he only said all options are on the table. He SHOULD clarify if he meant combat troops or EU peacekeeping troops to enforce whatever potential peace deal they negotiate. Europe seems to be pushing some kind of Korea style resolution.
     
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    The NATO members should already be prepared. They should be prepared to mobilize today.
     
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    oh dear.....
     
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    as always MAGA lives in Alternative world.

    No wars when Trump was POTUS?

    Trump Declares ISIS ‘100%’ Defeated in Syria. ‘100% Not True,’ Ground Reports Say. - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

    “You kept hearing it was 90 percent, 92 percent, the caliphate in Syria. Now it’s 100 percent, we just took over,” Mr. Trump said in remarks to American troops in Alaska. “Now it’s 100 percent, we just took over 100 percent caliphate. That means the area of the land. We just have 100 percent.”

    “So that’s good.”

    so Trump was taking Cradit for a war victory he never fought?
     
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    You are right. The war can be avoided if Putin the mother F*** leave Ukraine.

    so tell the MF Putin to go back to his f*** country.
     
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    NATO Secretary General Stoltenberg said, "There are no plans to send NATO troops to Ukraine.'' In addition, German Chancellor Scholz stated that no ground troops or soldiers will be sent to Ukraine from Europe or NATO member countries. A senior White House official told Reuters that the United States has no plans to send troops to Ukraine or NATO troops. Poland and Britain also denied sending troops. France would have to go it alone, if it wants to get bogged down in Ukraine.
     
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    Crimea wasn’t a war, Russia hasn’t had foreign influence at all in Syria or anywhere else in the Middle East. Yeah sure thing
     
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    How did the US violate the memorandum (treaty by all standards). Once they went in to take Crimea they started the violations. You can’t be an American, you act like a communist sympathizer.
     
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    The ones calling Russians 'orcs' as they gleefully post comments about how they are being slaughtered. the dehumanization is ****ing disgusting.
     
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    Using excessive expletives doesn't scare anybody buddy. Cut it out and your point either stands or falls on it's merit.
     
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    That how paid MIC internet operatives work.
     
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    If he doesn't, are you willing to sacrifice an entire generation of our youth in the meatgrinder of world war that could so easily be avoided?
     
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    If they tell me to go I'll tell them I've decided that I'm a woman now.
     
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