In defense of Hunter Biden

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  1. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    You do not know this.
    Retainers and fees for legal consultation are not theft. Since Joe Biden is not part of it, there is no requirement for a trust.
    Joe could have shut it down when he took office, but he chose to allow the investigation to continue so as to show that he is not directing the DOJ that Joe is a man of integrity, unlike Trump is and would do. This counters the 'weaponization' argument made by the right.
    The meme to which you refer was photoshopped, and is not admissible in a court of law as it does not meet the minimum standards admissibility and authenticity required of evidence.
    Sorry, you're shooting blanks.
     
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  2. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    None of this matters,really. He was not charged with FARA.

    End of argument.
     
  3. Bullseye

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    Wikipedia is a crowd-sourced Wiki site not a rule book. And that prohibition applies in LAW not chat sites.
    And as I said, if you get your head out of Uber-left sights and join the read world you'd see reams of evidence being collected to be adjudicated.
     
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    popscott Well-Known Member Donor

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    Yea… none of your posts matter when you try to pull that one…

    Any indication why the DOJ has not charged the Biden family with 20 plus empty shell LLC’s…. $millions flowing into there shell companies from foreign countries.
     
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  5. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    the Wiki article is sourced. You can fact check it, if you want, just click on the annotations.

    But, you can check it in a university law library, that good enough for ya?

    2.4 The Burden of Proof – Criminal Law (umn.edu)
    https://open.lib.umn.edu/criminallaw/chapter/2-4-the-burden-of-proof/


    I repeat, outside of a court of law, I don't have to prove squat.

    You're the damn accuser, you prove your allegations.

    Innocence MUST be presumed .

    It's called what is fair. However......


    Now, you can hold an OPINION if there is solid evidence that, in my view, for someone like the president, should be CONCLUSIVE.

    And conclusive, your so-called 'evidence' ain't.
     
  6. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    My comment rebuked yours. Sorry, I'll pull that one every time your argument falters.
    NEWSFLASH

    Doing business abroad is NOT illegal.
    SARS are NOT prima facie evidence of a crime.
    LLCs are LEGAL ENTITIES. Crimes have to be PROVEN in a court of law, and must have probable cause of a crime to warrant investigation.

    The mere presence of the above items is not probable cause.

    Now, what probable cause do you have that would warrant a DOJ investigation?

    "money flowing into' is only evidence of doing business, which is legal.
     
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  7. Condor060

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    I know you are just listing excuses you came up with instead of actual facts

    FALSE
    The Trust account has to be designated as a trust account with the bank.
    And its listed in EVERY Attorney Bar website in the country.
    None of the 20 accounts found with 24 million are trust accounts.
    Period, the end.
    NEXT

    Nonsensical

    And your excuse is Joe didn't squash this up front because he wanted the committee to investigate?
    Just eat all the bad press for years, drag you kid through the mud, when you could have stopped it in its tracks?
    What other Cinderella stories do you have to tell today?
    NEXT

    I know nothing about a meme. What I do know is Hunter has already acknowledged his conversation demanding 5 million or else.
    Thats not an attorney client relationship. Thats called bribery, and extortion.
     
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  8. Bullseye

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    LOL, it's not MY evidence, It's the experts, witnesses, and investigators that are unearthing more details day by day. You may chose to ignore it if you choose.
     
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    and none of your post applies to the Biden family
     
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    2015.... NYT

    our corrupt DOJ failed to investigate Hunter and VP daddy and have been covering it up for 9 years....at least...

    Oh my...... Hunter Biden, 45, a former Washington lobbyist, joined the Burisma board in April 2014. That month, as part of an investigation into money laundering, British officials froze London bank accounts containing $23 million that allegedly belonged to Mr. Zlochevsky. So Hunter did not register as a foreign agent while being a "Washington lobbyist"

    https://archive.is/Ep9MT#selection-627.0-629.249
     
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    Clearly it said nuff to garner an equally empty retort from you :pc::roflol::rolleyes:
     
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    2002 maybe ;)
     
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    Nobody cares about him. It's all about Burisma and getting to Joe. Nobody is surprised that a silverspoon kid lived it up and partied some, I assure you, nobody cares about it. He's just the bait! What about the Burisma job that paid all that money. Think anyone really cares? Nope! ANYONE would take that job in a second. Picking on hunter keeps the shady Biden Money machine in the news.
     
  14. Patricio Da Silva

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    How can anyone prove Comer wrong when he hasn't proven he is right?

    First things first.

    I will deal with specifics, if you want, but one item at a time.

    now, instead of your lazy copies and pastes, do this, and this will take some work on your part, which you do not seem inclined to do, but it will improve your argument.

    1. Link to the court transcript, cite page numbers and lines.
    2. Explain what law was broken
    3. Link to por copy and past the actual code with citations.
    4. Explain how the testimony comports to the law that was broken.


    If you refuse to do this, I will ignore your post, because just linking to text and expect me to read your mind or anyone's mind as to what laws you and they think are broken, no discussion, no argument, that's not how to frame a proper debate.

    I'll be waiting, one item, two tops, per post.

    You game?

    I didn't think so.
     
  15. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    When there is probable cause.

    Branding is not illegal.
     
  16. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    You are, of course, referring to the Comer clown car

    Well, the wheels fell off. Comers covers are blown. We got their number.

    1. One 'whistleblower' (Luft) is a fugitive..
    2. the other (Smirnoff) is indicted.
    3. None of the testimonies have been corroborated to prove the allegations. Often, there are timeline issues with the claims.
    4. Rosemont Seneca Bohai & Rosemont Seneca Thorton are Archer's accounts, so Comer's claim that Yelena Baturina gave $3.5 million to 'Hunter controlled LLCs' is false. They were given to Archer, not Hunter. Fact not revealed in Comer documents. (see page 196 in the transcript).
    5.. Bobulinski, Gillair, and Walker conspired to lure Joe into a biz deal, (see page 123 of the court transcript) shot down by Hunter, who ceased working with them. But these facts are not revealed in Comer documents.
    6. SARs are not prima facie evidence of a crime. In large transactions with foreign entities, they are common.
    7. Money Laundering, an oft heard claim, presumes illegal activity, but none has been proven.
    8. Influence peddling requires Joe giving political favors for benefits. None proven.
    9. There are some 10 legit reasons for an LLC, and they are legal. Allegations of criminal abuse of them must be proven, which none have been proven.
    10. The right tends to frame activity in a negative way. For, example, instead of saying Hunter Biden earned money abroad in a biz venture, made money and shared it with siblings, the right says 'he took money from foreign adversaries and funneled it through 20 LLCs', making it sound like there is wrong doing, but when the rubber hits the road, no crimes are revealed. they have a propensity to spin in order, apparently, to make Joe Biden look back, for the constant reference on the "Biden Family' hoping that the ascription and negative smearing will rub off on Joe, with all the lies that are being told.

    The motivation for all of this has one objective, to smear Joe Biden and elect Donald Trump.

    All you got,. when you look at the Comer Pyle's Bile Pile is innuendo and circumstantial evidence, of which NOTHING implicates Joe Biden.

    Not one damned thing.

    Hunter Biden’s point-by-point rebuttal of allegations against his father - The Washington Post
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/03/01/hunter-biden-business-rebuttal/
     
  17. Bullseye

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    Yeah, well, see.
     
  18. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    You got that right, and on the allegation of 'money laundering' and 'influence peddling' you
    won't see squat.
     
  19. Patricio Da Silva

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    I don't see anything there that reveals Hunter didn't register as a lobbyist.

    What, in your imagine, are you alleging that is being covered up?

    now, instead of your lazy copies and pastes, do this, and this will take some work on your part, which you do not seem inclined to do, but it will improve your argument.

    1. Link to the court transcript, cite page numbers and lines.
    2. Explain what law was broken
    3. Link to or copy and paste the actual code with citations.
    4. Explain how the testimony comports to the law that was broken.
     
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    You're right about them picking on Hunter, it's all about Joe.

    Please explain what is shady about Hunter Biden's business affairs?
     
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    All of it does. None of your allegations do, however.

    Now, instead of your lazy copies and pastes, do this, and this will take some work on your part, which you do not seem inclined to do, but it will improve your argument.

    Caveat: one or two allegations at a time.

    then.....

    1. Link to the court transcript, cite page numbers and lines.
    2. Explain what law was broken
    3. Link to or copy and paste the actual code with citations.
    4. Explain how the testimony comports to the law that was broken.

    I don't think you can do it.
     
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    We'll see.
     
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    Hmmmm, T**** has over 500 LLCs. I wonder what we should make of that?
     

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