In defense of Hunter Biden

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  1. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    I just listed them in the OP. If you want to reveal Trump's redeeming qualities, start your own thread, because it is off topic here.
     
  2. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    So? So corroborate your 'suspicion', we've been waiting, you've not done it yet.
    Because hundreds of thousands have done it, it's not a big enough deal to attract their attention, unless, of course, a prominent Republican did it. But, since no prominent republican has, you haven't heard of it. That the NRA would defend a prominent person is reasonable, given that this charge is clear grounds for a Bruen reversal. But, of course, Hunter is a Democrat.
     
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    I'll be honest: I was pretty impressed with his resume when it came out during the last hearing/interview. This was one thing I was pretty skeptical about before, but after reading up, I don't see how someone like him wouldn't be welcome as a board member of, well, almost any company.
     
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    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Are yours being shown in museums and fetching $500k bids?

    I didn't think so.
     
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    500K "bribes" not "bids" lol.
     
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    Because all those positions are because of his last name, not merit. White privilege isn't popular right now among corporations. Haven't you noticed?
     
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    And if we click our ruby slippers and think of Kansas really hard, you'll finally have evidence!
     
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    So link me to the thread where you are demanding all of the Trumps to be arrested for exactly the same thing. No? Didn't think so. But, hey, I love performance art, and you are nailing it!
     
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    Oldyoungin Well-Known Member

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    Evidence is already there and presented. I am not too worried about convincing the extreme left.
     
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    see post # 60, second sentence. ;)
     
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    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    You are even less worried about basing your opinions on evidence or having an honest discussion. You've decided he's guilty. That's all you need. Nothing else will ever matter.
     
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    Yes. You already posted that pathetic dodge. I'll stick with evidence. You keep pretending repetition and stamping your feet is a replacement for evidence.
     
  13. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    And what evidence might that be?
    Without corroborating evidence of illegal activity, the mere fact an LLC is used isn't evence of a crime.

    As for your allegation of failure to use an EIN, please provide evidence of that claim.
    Over the last several months, the allegations being made by Comer and republicans on this forum were 'money laundering' and 'influence peddling'. I don't recall anyone caring about tax evasion until Weiss indicted Hunter for it. So, he has been charged. We'll find out at trial what it all means. You'll just have to wait. however, the salient fact remains that tax evasion doesn't necessarily prove money laundering nor influence peddling, these are separate crimes for which Weiss didn't charge.
    There is no evidence of fraud implicating Joe Biden. and if Hunter evaded taxes, that's Hunter's problem, not Joe's.
    Undeniable he says. well, just watch me destroy your argument:

    On the first video, Joe says:

    "I never discussed having anything to do with their businesses"

    I see no evidence that he did. So that's not a lie.

    on the second video he says:

    "I’ve never spoken to my son about his overseas business dealings."

    I see no evidence that he did, so that's not a lie.

    on the third video he says

    "I stand by that statement" (a reporter asked about it) that he did not discuss his son's business dealing though he was standing in a photo with his son and his son's business partners

    I see no evidence that he discussed his son's business with his son

    I"m sure the rest are the same.

    So, the only liars are republicans.

    What's the confusion?

    You guys are saying he 'didn't know about his sons dealings'.

    Do you see the difference?

    But that is NOT what he is saying. he is saying he doesn't discuss his son's business dealings with his son. he's not lying when he says that.

    That is NOT the same thing as saying he didn't know about his son's deals.

    Clearly, if he ever did say that that he 'didn't know about his son's deals', he's qualifying it now to mean that he hasn't discussed his business dealing with his sons.

    And even if he did lie, it's not a crime. How many examples of politicians to you want me to give you of politicians telling fibs or engaging in hyperbole or exaggeration? This is common.

    Yes, Joe attended lunches because his son invited him.

    Apparently Hunter was using his father to impress his business associates.

    That might be unseemly on Hunter's part, but it's not illegal. I would imagine that it is not uncommon for the siblings of the rich and famous take advantage of their situation for personal gain.

    Devon Archer testified that Joe did not discuss business matters with Hunter's associates, he only exchanged in 'pleasantries'.

    Please quit posting this nonsense.
    There is no evidence Joe was part of any business dealings insofar as being part of the organization structure, either direct or as an advisor, insofar as any position of responsibility in Hunter's enterprizes.
    Hunter's tax issues have nothing to do with Joe. Joe is all that matters.
    Whether those allegations equal charges, we'll have to wait for the verdict at trail.
    Moreover, I don't recall anyone on the right caring about tax issues until Weiss made the indictment, meaning for the last several months, all that I heard being alleged was money laundering and influence peddling, of which no evidence has been provided for those allegations, thus far, noting that Weiss has made no charges on them,. either.

    This tax thing is really just a consolation prize for the right, but it matters not, it's not Joe's problem, noting that the entire purpose of the Committee was to get Joe. This tax stuff is just a consolation, to give something to the taxpayers for the committee's failure. But, it does amount to congress wasting tax payer dollars on a private citizen, which is unheard of, until Hunter came along.

    The investigation thus far has failed to prove whether Hunter Biden’s actions or financial dealings had any impact on government policy or official actions.

    The investigation and thus far failed to determine if there were any instances of abuse of public trust or improper influence related to foreign interests by Joe Biden.

    Tax evasion by Joe's son doesn't actually prove anything insofar as the Committee's legislative purpose which is to investigate the president. So far, the investigation is a dud. .
    Because hundreds of thousands have done it , it's not a big enough deal to attract their attention, unless, of course, a prominent Republican did it. But, since no prominent republican has, you haven't heard of it. That the NRA would defend a prominent person is a reasonable claim, given that this charge is clear grounds for a Bruen reversal. But, of course, Hunter is a Democrat.
    Please look up the word 'excuses', you appear to be using it incorrectly.
     
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    You presented accolades and opinions along with Hunters claims he made about his past from his testimony.
    How do I know? Because I read his testimony.

    So lets discuss what he didn't provide.
    Any FARA registrations for his accounts hosting 24 million from 5 foreign nationals.
    Because none exist

    Any explanation as to products or services he provided to earn 24 million from 5 foreign nationals
    Because he can't.

    So answer this,

    If Jared Kushner, who was called before congress to explain how he came across 2 billion from the Saudis, simply provided his SEC registration showing where the money was located, how much he charges in fees, what its invested in, and every other SEC requirement, which shut down the investigation and he walked away unscathed,

    Why doesn't Hunter provide his credentials to take 24 million from 5 foreign nationals that would shut down this entire investigation?
     
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    20 accounts found with 24 million from 5 foreign nationals distributed to 9 Biden family members without a FARA registration or IRS notification.

    Running money through business accounts for discernments without an EIN or IRS reporting is money laundering and tax evasion.
    Its not like he isn't used to doing that, huh

    You mean no evidence you will accept. Problem is, you aren't on the committee.

    Too bad voters don't by that.
     
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    I can take a horse to water, but certainly can't make them drink.
     
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    You can ask an accuser for evidence, but all they will do sometimes is cry.
     
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    I would call it rich privilege, the Trump children know it well too, heck Trump was such a rich child.....
     
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    Or in absence of ruby slippers to click
    you can click these links to find evidence...


    All here…. Prove Comer wrong….
    Here is many pages worth of evidence of corruption... What did Joe know and when did he know it... PROVE ANY OF IT WRONG...
    https://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Bank-Memorandum-5.10.23.pdf
    https://oversight.house.gov/release...the-bidens-from-russia-kazakhstan-and-ukraine /
    https://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/Fourth-Bank-Records-Memo.pdf
    https://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/Redacted-doc.pdf
    https://oversight.house.gov/landing/biden-family-investigation/
    https://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/James-Biden-Transcript.pdf
    https://oversight.house.gov/release/oversight-and-judiciary-committees-release-hunter-biden-transcript/
    https://oversight.house.gov/release...ommittees-release-tony-bobulinski-transcript/
    https://oversight.house.gov/release/oversight-and-judiciary-committees-release-rob-walker-transcript/
    https://oversight.house.gov/release/oversight-and-judiciary-committees-release-mervyn-yan-transcript/
    https://oversight.house.gov/release/oversight-and-judiciary-committees-release-carol-fox-transcript/
    https://oversight.house.gov/release/comer-statement-on-mervyn-yan-transcribed-interview/
    https://oversight.house.gov/release/oversight-judiciary-and-ways-and-means-committees-release-kevin-morris-transcript/
    https://oversight.house.gov/release/oversight-judiciary-committees-release-georges-berges-transcript/


    boat load of stuff categorized...
    Key Evidence:

    An interactive timeline of the Biden’s pay for play schemes
    https://oversight.house.gov/the-bidens-influence-peddling-timeline/

    Oversight Committee report revealing the Bidens’ dealings with foreign countries.
    https://oversight.house.gov/wp-cont...promised-The-Biden-Family-Investigation-1.pdf

    Biden Bank Records Memorandum showing the family created over 20 shell companies
    https://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Bank-Memorandum-5.10.23.pdf

    Key Findings from the IRS Whistleblowers
    https://waysandmeans.house.gov/wp-c...ans-Fact-Sheet-on-Whistleblower-Testimony.pdf

    Whistleblowers’ transcripts press release and links
    https://waysandmeans.house.gov/smit...atment-for-wealthy-and-politically-connected/

    Follow-up letters seeking more transcribed interviews in the wake of the IRS whistleblowers’ explosive testimony
    https://oversight.house.gov/release/comer-jordan-smith-seek-over-a-dozen-transcribed-interviews-related-to-agency-misconduct-in-hunter-biden-investigation/

    FBI Form 1023 alleging then-Vice President Joe Biden engaged in a bribery and extortion scheme and ultimately received $5 million from a Burisma executive.
    https://twitter.com/GOPoversight/status/1682067528242151427

    Comer Releases Third Bank Memo Detailing Payments to the Bidens from Russia, Kazakhstan, and Ukraine
    https://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Third-Bank-Records-Memorandum_Redacted.pdf

    Sixteen Times Joe Biden Lied About His Family’s Business Schemes
    https://oversight.house.gov/blog/jo...-15-times-about-his-familys-business-schemes/

    Twenty-Two Examples of Joe Biden’s Involvement in His Family’s Influence Peddling Schemes
    https://oversight.house.gov/blog/ev...nt-in-his-familys-influence-peddling-schemes/

    Comer Reveals $200,000 Payment to Joe Biden the Same Day James Biden Received $200,000 from Americore
    https://oversight.house.gov/release/comer-releases-evidence-of-direct-payment-to-joe-biden/

    Comer Reveals How Joe Biden Received Laundered China Money
    https://oversight.house.gov/release/comer-reveals-how-joe-biden-received-laundered-china-money/

     
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    Then clearly, you have no concept of what a 'reasonable question' is.
    Ditto, above,
    That is not an argument.
     
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    All of these have been debunked.

    Got anything new?
     
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    Are democrats just that dumb they couldn't see any of this for 35 years, or did they just decided he was when he announced he was running?
    Not a lot of options, huh. lol
     
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    The thread topic said it all ;)

     
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    earning, not 'taking', please quit spinning.
    So?
    It's a relevant fact that the person assigned as Special counsel, after six years of investigation, made the prosecutorial decision that charging a FARA violation wasn't a merit worthy prosecution, despite your ranting and raving about this very small point over and over and over ad nauseum.

    In the annals of criminal history, FARA isn't the big thing you think it is.

    Moreover, note the following for your edification:
    Note that Hunter is a registered Lobbyist.
    Note that Hunter is an attorney.

    Items 2 - 5 may very well apply to Hunter, which explains why Weiss hasn't put this in the indictment.

    I swear, after all these rants about FARA, you didn't take a second to research this?
    And Willis and Smith aren't the only ones who can charge Trump, what a meaningless point.
    Please do four things:

    1. Study Hunter's resume and his qualifications.
    2. Study the transcript.
    3. Bone up on what is required for FARA
    4. Bone up on what is required for SEC registration, and what, specifically, did Hunter do that makes you believe that registering with the SEC was necessary, and then explain why it wasn't an issue with Weiss.

    For your edification:

    You see, Condor, no prosecutor is going to indict a high value target if there is a 'debate' on something like a FARA registration, they would have if it were clear cut.

    Moreover, if you had done your homework, you wouldn't be wasting all this time harping on FARA and SEC.

    Please study these subjects more robustly so we don't have to tell you these things.
     
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    how many successful men (let alone military) in the annals of history have paid for sex?

    Hunter recovered from his addiction, wrote a book about. It sold fairly well.

    now he is selling paintings at $500k a pop, and some are in museums.

    That kinda shoots your characterization to hell.
     

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