In defense of Hunter Biden

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  1. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    I see, rather incessantly, efforts by many on the right to paint Hunter Biden as some kind of dog eared loser crack addict. That might seem true if you only focus on a narrow portion of his life. You can do that with just about anyone, which is to say, cherry pick the bad and ignore the good, and paint a false picture of anyone. Now, if the dark stuff were 80% of his life, or anyone's life, you'd have a point. But that is not what many on the right are doing, they are trying to paint a false picture of Hunter Biden. so the question remains, why are they doing this?

    There is only one conceivable answer. They are hoping that Hunter's dark period will rub off on Joe Biden and help Trump get elected, which is rather sad because Trump's negativity consumes his entire life since he faked his way through college and lied to avoid military service, then went on to scam thousands out of millions along the way, and so they are trying to hurt Joe Biden by ragging on his son in order to promote someone who is infinitely worse. Doesn't that seem pathetic? It sure does to me. I mean, focus on Joe Biden, his record, that is fair, I can see that, but his son, when there is no evidence that Joe Biden recieved one penny from his son's dealings? That's just wrong.

    As for what service Hunter provided to his clients? I don't know, so, let's read the transcript and see what he says. You guys never seem to mention waiting for the transcript, y'all seem really quick to be a judge on what he was doing, as if it were criminal just because your imagination cannot conceive of innocent explanations for many of your complaints, which I've pointed out many times, and many of you continue, incessantly, to ignore, many times.

    1. SARs on large money transactions with foreign entities are common and not prima facie evidence of criminal activity
    2. There are a dozen or so legit reasons for Shell corps, "LLCs" they are not prima facie evidence of criminal activity.
    3. All the evidence you guys have provided only prove that Hunter earned money abroad, which is legal, and that he shared his profits with his siblings, which is generous.
    4. No evidence Joe Biden made a nickel.
    5. As for Joe 'lying', read this:
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...siness-partners.602226/page-2#post-1074566197
    6. Hunter used his famous Dad as a lure for business deals, that is not illegal.
    7. Hunter's tax 'crimes' are for filing late, and paying his taxes late', which millions have done and never been charged. Most of the charges are misdemeanors.
    8. Hunter's gun charge, if he were a Repub the NRA would be defending him.

    It's true Hunter had a dark period. His brother died, he fell into a deep depression, made terrible choices, took to drugs and associated poor conduct, but found his way back to the light and wrote a book about it.

    But Hunter's story, if all is told, and you will listen, and you are honest and objective, and not biased, you will learn that his story is an American come back success story. As for his indictment, he paid his taxes, millions file late (myself included) and were never indicted for it. As for the gun charge, if he were a Republican the NRA would be coming to his defense.

    Please read the transcript of his recent deposition that was offered.

    But, for the record, here is his resumé of accomplishments. The man is no slouch, contrary to right wing opinion:

    Hunter Biden....
    • Graduated from Georgetown University
    • Former member of the Jesuit Volunteer Corps Northwest
    • Graduated from Yale Law School, served as an editor of the Yale Law and Policy Review and the Yale Law and Humanities Journal, and received honors for thesis work on law and policy
    • Vice president at a major national bank, worked in the General Counsel's Office and then as manager of a unit within the Fraud Department
    • Executive director of e-commerce policy coordination with the Department of Commerce during the Clinton administration
    • Founded and built the law firm Oldaker, Biden & Belair, representing not-for-profit institutions, including close to a dozen primarily Jesuit universities across the country
    • Founded and built a successful small business advising global infrastructure and alternative investment clients
    • Served on the National Passenger Rail Corporation Board (Amtrak) as appointed by President Bush, eventually becoming vice chairman and head of the Corporate Governance Committee
    • Served as chairman on the board of the Center for National Policy
    • Served on the board of the Jesuit Volunteer Corps Northwest
    • Served as chairman on the board of the Truman National Security Project
    • Served on the chairman's advisory board of the National Democratic Institute
    • Served on the board for Catholic Charities in Washington, D.C.
    • Served as chairman on the board of the U.S./U.N. World Food Program
    • Adjunct professor for 4 years at Georgetown University's School for Foreign Service in its master's program
    • Of counsel at the international law firm Boies, Schiller & Flexner
    • Member of the bars of the States of Connecticut, the District of Columbia, the Federal Court of Claims, and the U.S. Supreme Court
    • Author of the memoir "Beautiful Things"
    • Currently a talented and successful artist
    Sorry, Hunter is no slouch.

    Your refusal to ignore the complete story of Hunter Biden is partisanship, and not objectivity.
     
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  2. Oldyoungin

    Oldyoungin Well-Known Member

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    Joe Biden certainly wont be winning any father of the year awards.

    If he was a republican, democrats would use him as a white privilege example. But instead they treat him like prince harry
     
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    I think Hunter is a bit of a shyster and low life. I think he got unsavory business deals because of his father and name. But I have not seen anything illegal other than a few tick0tak crimes. I could hardly care less over what happens or doesn't happen with Hunter. On the other hand the recent name of the game and latest modus operandi of authoritarian government is search the statutes for obscure crimes, or find some minor crimes and turn them into egregious crimes just to get political opponents and their associates. I personally think that is wrong and unconstitutional, but it is the accepted new process of the left and Democrats (it was the radical right with McCarthyism), so why not play the game according to the current rules? Ignoring the fact that in 3rd world banana republics there are always two or three sets of rules to be applied to different people of the government's choosing.
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    But having twenty of them with no family business certainly is suspicious
    I have never heard of the NRA or any other republican defend anyone for lying about the use of drugs on a gun background check.
    You can look at his art work and conclude that??

    You left out the part about getting kicked out of the Navy.

    Will not acknowledge his own child says volumes about his character.
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  5. Tipper101

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    It’s amazing how much we’ve heard from Lefties about how much Hunter does not matter, he’s not running for office, go ahead and throw the kitchen sink at him for all they care…

    …and yet how much time these same lefties are willing to give to defend the person they say doesn’t matter.

    Fascinating
     
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    Addiction was his downfall, happens to many successful people
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    he doesn't matter to a Biden impeachment.... and if he is guilty of something real charge him, same as any republican
     
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    He is guilty of something real and got a sweetheart deal for it. Where ya been??
     
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    yes, Republican going after him for buying a gun, the right no longer supports the 2nd it seems
     
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    you’d think gun hating lefties woulda been all over it. But nope! Crack head tax evading whore buyers get a free pass with that **** from you
     
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    it's interesting to watch the right show us their true feelings on guns

    just like people that drink alcohol, do not want them to drink and operate a gun either... but they can still buy them, it's a constitutional right
     
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    You appear to be wandering off in aimless search of a deflection, care to come back to the reservation and remind me again how much Democrats would be willing to prosecute to the fullest extent possible Hunter? I’m in need of a second good laugh out of you.
     
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    you wanted to talk about this, but if you don't anymore, then have a good day
     
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    I asked you to tell me all about Republicans in a thread all about defending Hunter? Where did I do that, I’m very sorry about that!
     
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    you wanted to act like you thought Biden was not punished enough for buying a gun
     
  16. Patricio Da Silva

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    My father taught art at the university level and I grew up around art and artists.

    In my opinion Hunter Biden is a talented artist.
     
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    A private citizen been investigated by a special counsel for six years all the while having his integrity impugned by congress for such time is not "sweetheart" treatment.
     
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    May not be a slouch - none of those "achievements" is difficult when you're the son of the Mob's Capo. Oh, and 99.999% of art critics would argue about his talent as an artist.
    As usual you AI ends up as a humongous cow pie.
     
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    And I have done a few oil paintings and his paintings are terrible.
     
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    Suspicious Activity Reports are used to report suspicious activity that might signal criminal activity (e.g., money laundering, tax evasion).
    The evidence found from investigating those reports is prima facie evidence.

    None of which include running 24 million through them without so much as an EIN.

    What has been provided is Hunter took 24 million from China, Russia, Kazakhstan, and Ukraine without reporting those funds to the IRS, then distributed those monies to 9 Biden family members. Why is Hunter trying to hide those transactions? What services did he provide?
    All questions you prefer to ignore.

    He doesn't have to be paid to be involved in a fraud

    Its already a matter of record on 16 times Joe Biden publically and knowingly falsified information about his relationships with Hunters clients.
    With an undeniable public record
    https://oversight.house.gov/blog/jo...-15-times-about-his-familys-business-schemes/

    Then he claims his dad was never a part of any of his dealings which means he knowingly lied to investors to get their money.
    Which is fraud


    FALSE.
    • subverted the payroll and tax withholding process of his own company by withdrawing millions outside of the payroll and tax withholding process;
    • spent millions of dollars on an extravagant lifestyle rather than paying his tax bills;
    • in 2018, stopped paying his outstanding and overdue taxes for tax year 2015;
    • willfully failed to pay his 2016, 2017, 2018 and 2019 taxes on time, despite having access to funds to pay some or all of these taxes;
    • willfully failed to file his 2017 and 2018 tax returns, on time; and
    • when he did finally file his 2018 returns, included false business deductions in order to reduce the very substantial tax liability he faced as of February 2020.
    Felony charges for
    Failure to file
    Tax Evasion
    Filing a false return


    FALSE
    There is no record of the NRA or Republicans defending a drug addict for lying on an application to illegally purchase a gun.

    Your excuses are found to be untrue or out of context claims.


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    Its good that Patricio can find the good in Hunter, though much of it is spun, twisted, or plain wrong.

    Now, do the same with trump.
     
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    That is a fair and reasonable post about the man. Too many refuse to see the whole picture of a person . Particularly , one that has been troubled . They choose to brand/ label the peso and ignore any of the positives of the person. That is prejudicial. People should KNOW that drugs can influence behavior in negative ways. It is not an "excuse" , but it is an explanation that enlightened people should understand. When peple like this are part of a famous family and involved in politics...they seem to become fair game in the most negative (and inhumane) sense.
     
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    Why change the subject to Trump???
     
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    A lot of people would call that white privilege.
     
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