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Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Lee Atwater, Feb 29, 2024.

  1. CornPop

    CornPop Well-Known Member

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    Those statutes cannot be applied to federal candidates in this manner. Even if they hadn't expanded the statutes to suit their agenda, it's still illegal to apply state election laws against federal candidates that violate the Constitution. The Secretary of State has to verify the documents below. Note that the qualifications to run for office in these states match the Qualification Clause of the Constitution. The Secretary of State illegally claimed that Trump did not fulfill these qualifications because he allegedly engaged in an activity not listed on the qualifications the state can verify. The Constitution is the supreme law of the land. States cannot violate the Constitution. When they do, it is an illegal act. That's the definition of "illegal." The Constitution, not State officials, determines who is qualified to run for federal office. No state or federal official can violate the Constitution. When they do, it's illegal.

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    The rebuttal was easily dismissed. I'm not sure why people believe violating the Constitution isn't illegal, but I understand it's a concept insurrectionists might struggle over.
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Actually, the Court left it up to Congress to act before the Constitution’s “insurrection clause” could be enforced. Effectively rendering Sec. 3 moot. If the matter were left to the Constitution's language, and proven intent of the 14th's authors, Trump would not be on the ballot.
    The irony being the Roberts court has previously rolled back what Congress had the authority to do under the 14th Amendment. Only to do an about face in this case.
     
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    clennan Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You are stating the situation AFTER the SCOTUS issued it's opinion. PRIOR to that opinion, the states used their entirely legal mechanisms to disqualify a presidential candidate, and STAYED their rulings pending clarification. Their procedures remain entirely legal and constitutional but can only be applied, per the awaited SCOTUS ruling, to state offices - a ruling that was the product of much deliberation and debate.
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The adage.........."my mind's made up, don't confuse me with the facts" seems appropriate to describe his misguided replies.
     
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