It's down to us.

Look up all the cops that have gone to jail in the past few years...lol

 

you didn't look up qualified immunity, did you? lol

 

I don't need to...lol

 

He had no reason to have them in the first place. In the case of Trump he is allowed this should have been a civil trial to decide that dispute rather than a criminal trial.

 

No he didn't.

 

How do you impeach a bloke who is no longer POTUS?

 

Sure, go for it.

 

I agree 100%. So why is SCOTUS dragging the lead on this one?

 

Ah, i didn't think youd apply that to both parties, just republicans.

 

Here is what Judge Chutkan wrote in her ruling on Trump's claim of immunity. "Whatever immunities a sitting president may enjoy, the United States has only one chief executive at a time, and that position does not confer a lifelong get out of jail free pass." It was a ruling the appellate court agreed with in unanimous fashion. Why? Because it is the only possible ruling that can be made based on the law. Which is why the Supreme Court taking the case has no legal justification. But it does have a political one.

 

Because the wheels of justice move slowly.

There is nothing unusual about the USSC being slow. What is highly unusual is this rush for such a complicated case. With literally millions of pages of discovery, this type of case typically takes years to go to trial.

 

So, it’s down to us. But what do the public, most of Americans want? That’s easy when it comes to this upcoming rematch of an election. Most Americans don’t want Biden reelected; most Americans don’t want Trump to regain the White House. This has been obvious for a long time but ignored by both major parties. 56% of all Americans don’t want Biden to run again which includes 26% of Democrats, 61% of independents, 83% of republicans. 54% of all Americans don’t want Trump to run again either. This includes 86% of democrats, 56% of independents, 17% of republicans.


https://d3nkl3psvxxpe9.cloudfront.net/documents/econTabReport_XLG2Z6p.pdf


This helps explain why Trump has a slight lead in the polls. A few percentage points less among independents, the non-affiliated, the less to non-partisan group that don’t want Trump to run again, to regain the white house than don’t want Biden to run again, be reelected.


https://www.realclearpolling.com/po...24/trump-vs-biden-vs-kennedy-vs-west-vs-stein


It also explains why 18% of all Americans are planning on voting third party against both Trump and Biden or are falling into the will not vote column which includes 30% of all independents. A group Biden won in 2020 54-41 over Trump. Which is a big deal since independents according to Gallup and Pew Research make up 45% of the electorate.


I’d say the bottom line is it was left up to us, us being most Americans, not just the republican base and not just the democratic base that this upcoming presidential election wouldn’t include either Trump or Biden as candidates in this upcoming presidential election. 62% of all Americans say this country needs another choice other than Biden and Trump. 56% of all Americans say they would consider voting for a moderate independent if the rematch occurs.


https://harvardharrispoll.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/HHP_Feb2024_KeyResults.pdf


Given the choices from the two major parties, it’s not up to us, us being defined as most Americans. It’s up to the two major party’s bases. They’re the ones who are giving us this unwanted rematch, not most Americans. That is if most Americans means us.

 

You may wish to believe that. For I have seen over the years, MAGA is not about law and order. In fact, they are against it.
But here's a list of his legal troubles.

...
The Federal Election Interference Case

The Georgia Election Interference Case

The Classified Documents Case

The Hush Money Case

https://www.politico.com/interactives/2023/trump-criminal-investigations-cases-tracker-list/

 

Hmm, is MAGA now supporting terrorists?

...
Abdulrahman al-Awlaki's father, Anwar al-Awlaki, was alleged to be an operational leader of al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula.[6] Anwar was killed by a CIA drone strike[7] ordered by Obama two weeks prior to the killing of his son.

 

Nope.
If he still has gov't docs and won't return them, then he is also going to have to go to trial

 

Time to own up to the fact, MAGA leader is not a good leader.
Political prosecution and persecution? Seems rather emotional.

 

That would be correct. He is not trying to rush it. If he was, the trial would already be taking place.
He can't do anything about trial dates, except accept or reject them.

 

LOL. That was a joke?

 

Despite the reality that it is the USSC currently having the trial date on hold ( not the judge), the actual subject being discussed that you jumped into was specifically about Smith's attempt to have the trial take place far more quickly than is typical.

I guess this is one of those strawman arguments where you argue against a point that has not been raised.

 

What I said was an on the merits assessment of those cases. And a status report as to where I think they are.

 

Bye bye Bill.

 

The choice is increasingly clear. A vote for democracy--Biden, a vote against it--Trump.

 

In your mind. But this democratic rhetoric of Trump destroying democracy isn’t taking hold out there among the masses. They view all this talk as nothing more than political propaganda, a vote for me or my candidate type of rhetoric. A scare tactic. In fact, 62% of all Americans view this rhetoric of Trump being out to destroy democracy as nothing more than a democratic party initiated scare tactic.


https://harvardharrispoll.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/HHP_Feb2024_KeyResults.pdf


To the question, “Do you think Donald Trump is someone who will shake up the country for the better or do you think he is a danger to democracy and will hopelessly divide the country if elected? 56% answered will shake up the country for the good, 44% that Trump is a danger to democracy and will hopelessly divide the country if elected.


I think this talk about Trump destroying democracy would have taken hold a lot better, more if Biden wasn’t the democratic nominee. By that I mean if the democrats truly believed that Trump was out to destroy democracy they’d have come up with a better, more popular, younger, more energetic candidate. Not someone most Americans don’t want to see reelected. But both major parties have decided on candidates that most Americans dislike and don’t want as their next president. It is what it is, so we’ll see what happens. The winner will be the candidate most Americans want to see lose the least. Not win but lose the least as they want both major party candidates to lose. This is also something both major parties have failed to realize or if known, chose to ignore. We’ll see how ignoring the wants, wishes, feelings of most Americans or in this case, the don’t want of most Americans plays out.

 

Can't handle the challenge?...lol

 

al-Awalaki was a United States citizen. Do you support United States citizens being stripped of their rights unilaterally by the president?