Texas blocks Pornhub

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  1. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    It wasn't an "example" of anything. It was pointing out that, if credit cards are not a barrier for minors, then neither are IDs. If that isn't dumbed down enough, then you are never going to get it.

    As for not getting things, thanks for quoting the part where you were wrong about the definition without responding.
     
  2. MelshieMaze

    MelshieMaze Well-Known Member

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    Kids, and generally anyone has been able to get around those things before so they’ll likely be trying to get around it again.
     
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    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nice spin.
     
  4. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    It was literally one of the examples you gave of a nanny state. Quoting you isn't "spin."
     
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    ButterBalls Well-Known Member

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    Then again we started here!

    But per norm, the simple answer is hardly the end, is it ;)
     
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  6. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    Yes. According to the definition provided in the LAW, dildos are sexually explicit. Unless you are denying that they are simulated depiction of a penises. Similarly, any simulated depiction of a vagina, an anus, a nipple, or even buttocks are also defined as sexual material and explicitly covered by the law. Even simulated depictions of pubic hair is covered. The only expectations are for if these depictions are for children's artistic, political, literary, or scientific value.

    You see, you kept saying "by definition." The thing is, the LAW provides the definition. You can't just go pick a random dictionary from a random edition, turn the pages and pick definition 2a and say that's what counts. The only "by definition" that counts, is the definition provided in the LAW. Get it now?

    As per norm, the simple answer is to inform yourself.
     
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    So your point is they are explicit ;) OK then, let's go with that..
     
  8. yardmeat

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    . . . have you not read a single word of this exchange? That's exactly what I said from the beginning. So, yes. Let's go with that. That means we now agree the law applies to them and that Texas can sue any website that has images of sex toys if they don't require ID before accessing the site. The point is that this WOULD be part of the law.
     
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    Looks like Texas wants to emulate oppressed middle east Countries. Wonder how long it will take them to create a law that says Women must wear a burka?
     
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    Sure hope all those people know how to use VPNs
     
  11. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, but there are ways to block traffic from at least some cheaper VPNs, and Texas will probably say that this is part of the requirements once they realize they exist.
     
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    Never said they did, restricted via age requirements..
     
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    And that's another thing you got wrong. They were restricted via age requirements even before this law passed. See Texas Penal Code Section 43.21 & 43.24
     
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    Jesus freaking christ on a stick. Why the hell is this so controversial? Used to be a time that it wasn't. "Want porn? Give me your ID!" You think that just because its on the internet that it should be different? Pfft. No, it shouldn't. Instead of bitching about how someone might steal your info why not suggest ways to ensure it doesn't get stolen?

    And seriously? Trying to emulate middle east countries? Making such a claim about a law trying to prevent CHILDREN from accessing porn? Only one word comes to mind with such an argument. Starts with a P and ends with an A.

    As for Pornhub trying to make this about free speech? Sorry, doesn't apply anymore than it would apply to a minor buying a Porn Magazine, or gun, or cigarettes, or bars, or anything else that requires you to be an ADULT to be allowed in/to have.

    Seriously...this should not be so controversial. I'm disgusted that it apparently is.
     
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    Well, they aren't buying anything. Pornhub is free. While you may have no problem with tech companies storing images of your ID, not everyone is okay with that. Hell, back when I worked at FB, customers didn't even want to provide an ID to recover their account. And, again, some of us think that this is a parental responsibility.
     
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  16. Kal'Stang

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    Entering a bar is free, doesn't mean you're not required to provide ID when you enter. And guess what? Kids still find a way around THAT. Doesn't mean that the law shouldn't be there. As for providing an ID...Credit cards have far more info on you than any State Issued ID if you know how to look it up. Yet I bet you willingly give out your CC# whenever you purchase something online. Hell, peoples social media has their entire lives on display for everyone to see. Far more info than any ID is going to provide.

    As for parental responsibility...sure it is. But we all know that kids go behind parents backs and parents, no matter how good they are, can't catch everything that they're children do. I'm sure you had secrets from your parents from when you were a kid. So yeah, we're going to have laws, and have had laws for decades, that require people provide ID.
     
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    Huh? There's always kids at the bar I go to. It's pretty family friendly.

    With enough ID information, you can do a lot more harm than you can from a single CC, which can easily be frozen and whose charges you can (at least with my bank) easily challenges. I've had my credit card info stolen a couple of times. It really wasn't much of a headache. Now, my buddy had his identity stolen, and THAT was a much bigger headache.

    This is the same argument liberals use for saying all guns in a household with children should, by law, be locked away and unloaded when not in use. The exact same. Only more dangerous.
     
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    Don't need the govt to do my job as a parent be it blocking web sites, or teaching my kids that boys can be girls and girls can be boys.

    None of it is the role of the govt.

    Liberty and freedom are pretty straightforward.
     
  19. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Haaaah!

    I mean... sure.... sure...
     
  20. ButterBalls

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    Whatever that meant, but if had to guess, it be you think VPN are the gold standard in masking IP addresses ;)

    That how they make their money, a plethora of suckers..
     
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    Nope, I had it right..
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Nope! Binary thinking on your part. If they really really really want, agencies like the FBI can track any IP address no matter how well you mask it.
     
  23. ButterBalls

    ButterBalls Well-Known Member

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    See, with a little nudge you made a much better reply, my tutelage has paid off ;)
     
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    Well damn..... That's too bad we can't have six year old seeing porn on their phone.

    What is the world coming to? Now they'll just have to go to school and listen to their liberal teachers tell them about how they could really be a little girl or a little boy instead of what they are, instead of accessing transsexual pornography or something. What a horrible fascist move
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Yep! Because the FBI will be using their most advanced and costly technological resources to track people in Texas who watch porn. No doubt! After all, why would they bother to use their resources to track child pornography, or bank robbers, or terrorism, or ... political collusion between a campaign and a foreign power, when they can do something important like... busting some teenager who just wants to jack-off.

    Ain't reality a bitch!
     
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