Attempted Suicide Rates More Than Double After Gender-Reassignment Surgery: Study

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  1. Zorro

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    I'm not surprised. It's always been a scam and a con run by psychopaths.
     
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    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If these people don't have mental illnesses, then why are they seeing psychologists and psychiatrists?
     
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    Do you agree that there is more than one medical response capable of addressing the mental illiness of gender dysphoria?

    Using your comparison, if we were evaluating cancer patients rate of death, and those that used herbal remedies were dying at much higher rates than chemo... would that validate analysis of the potential remedies?
     
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    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    non-sense, and even more non-sense about if they are persecuted today.

    If somebody doesn't align with your desired perspective on the topic, they are hateful, have a phobia, or are persecuting others.

    I don't know when liberals took the position that others are not allowed to disagree, and if they do then they must have some problem.

    It's why everybody today needs safe spaces and desires to shut down and cancel opposing views. Good job.
     
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    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh, the irony as the progressive left continually pushes their victim groups off on everybody else establishing and acceptable ideology that if not in lockstep creates "fanatics".

    It's such the way of the progressive left to literally create victims that didn't otherwise exist and then claim victimhood when people challenging their creations.
     
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    Examples of persecution?
     
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    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Always creating victims necessitating you and other Progressives to come running to aid...

    Maybe we are creating the problem in impressionable young minds... feeling like we have saved victims failing to see this creates victims?

    Frequency of articles on gender dysphoria in different time periods between 1970 and 2011.
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    I respect every individual's right to self-identity, as well as the consensus of medical expertise regarding treatment of gender dysphoria.

    Every major medical association in the United States recognizes the medical necessity of transition-related care for improving the physical and mental health of transgender people.

    If you respect neither, that is your prerogative. There are dogmatic ideologues with no expertise who differ, and would have the State dictate to everyone in such matters.

    The biggest cry baby "victim" whiner these days is clearly the sexual abuser who has a cult following.
     
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    That's great and all but you are still completely ignoring the fact that bodily mutilation can make people feel suicidal. Those so called experts you are portraying as Gods just want the profit that comes along with it. Its pretty strange to just ignore that fact. You can tell your experts to shove it because people are still killing themselves over it, clearly, bodily mutilation needs further research. Real research, not researchers that bend over and take it from big pharma as they are told

    WAKE UP
     
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    Actually, since this surgery is supposed to "fix" the issue making a person more like what they think they are----Isn't it more logical to say this is like people who are cured of cancer are more likely to die?
     
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    Not being allowed medical care can make people feel suicidal.

    Dogmatic ideologues with no medical expertise are not gods.
     
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    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They can have the "care" if they are old enough to decide that for themselves. pretty simple concept
     
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    Interesting.

    Would you be so kind to give us a link to some of this "research" that concludes that [clinical] depression is a product of the way "people treat them for it"?
     
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    You seriously think that social ostracization never leads to depression? I apologize for thinking you might be willing to have an honest discussion. I suppose you will require evidence that the earth isn't flat next.
     
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    You mentioned that research concludes that depression is a product of the way people are treated. I had never seen any such "research", and am skeptical of that claim as a result.

    Asking you for proof of such is a reasonable request. I am willing to look at the "research" and draw conclusions from its content and validity. Can you provide us a link?

    Speculation and research are two different things.
     
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    And, in the case of minors, their parents or guardians make medical decisions for them. Pretty simple concept.

    Some dogmatic ideologues with no medical expertise spread their fake propaganda.

    Gender-affirming care (GAC) is a “supportive form of health care” for transgender people that “consists of an array of services that may include medical, surgical, mental health, and non-medical services.” Such care is critical for the “overall health and well-being” of transgender adolescents, as it helps patients in “aligning their outward, physical traits with their gender identity” and thereby overcome the discomfort or distress caused by the misalignment of the two that defines gender dysphoria. GAC is well established, and “every major US medical association recognizes that gender-affirming health care is medically necessary treatment for dysphoria.” Surgical treatment is “essential” for some transgender people experiencing gender dysphoria, as “relief … cannot be achieved without modification of their primary and/or secondary sex characteristics to establish greater congruence with their gender identity.” More common than surgery is hormone therapy, a form of GAC that—like surgery—is necessary treatment for some patients suffering from gender dysphoria.
     
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    That is straight up BS. Puberty blockers is the same thing as chemical castration. Castration IS a surgical thing. Its disgusting to ignore that. Completely DISGUSTING
     
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    Yes. Social ostracization is part of how they are being treated. So, you are either claiming that there is either no research saying that social ostracization can lead to depression, or that trans people are somehow a special exception.
     
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    It's a treatment. Not a 100% cure. And it tends to be pursued more often in more extreme cases of gender dysmorphia.
     
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    And if you had evidence of this, you'd talk about it. Instead you ignore the medical professionals and the experiences of the patients.
     
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    I'm sorry that historical facts upset you so. You asked a question. I answered. But that's an adorable strawman you have there.
     
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    Of course there are. That's why I think it should be the jobs of the doctors and patients. As for your above example, it isn't bad at all conceptually.
     
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    Your opinion that differs radically from medical expertise is noted.

    I prefer that medical treatment be privately determined by those impacted, in consultation with trusted, qualified practitioners, rather than allow politicians to dictate to everyone.
     
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    That medical expertise is BS based on short term research based on what big pharma wants. The OP provided proof and you just keep pretending not to see it and keep throwing out nonsense about medical "experts". Your game plan has been ousted! might wanna try a new angle to try and defend bodily MUTILATION of minors
     

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