Where Is The “Climate Emergency”?

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  1. bringiton

    bringiton Well-Known Member

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    Except that it doesn't. Sea level increase since the end of the last ice age has been driven by isostatic rebound of submerged continental shelves, not increased temperature.
    Sea level increase is only problematic in areas undergoing subsidence, whether as a result of tectonic processes or related to development, especially extraction of groundwater for human (mainly agricultural) use. Extraction of groundwater also causes incursion of seawater into natural aquifers, making them unusable for most purposes.

    Very little to do with global warming, let alone CO2.

    You can't solve problems whose causes you have misdiagnosed.
     
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    Trouble in the Water: Hawaii's Climate Crisis


    Maybe you guys can convince the people of Hawaii that their climate crisis isn't real.
     
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    Oh, so all that melting glacial ice water isn't finding its way into the ocean? Are the laws of physics making an exception for Exxon?
     
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    Since you didn't provide a summary for a 25 minute video, I will ignore it meanwhile you continue to avoid post one article's content thus there is nothing new here.
     
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    Of course you will. You don't have to watch it all to get what it's about.
     
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    Glaciers always lose melt water in the summer, that's how they don't cover the whole world even though it snows on them every winter. Duh. There is no credible empirical evidence -- none -- that glaciers are melting any more or faster now than they did in previous natural millennium-scale warming episodes like the Holocene Optimum thousands of years ago, or the Medieval Warm Period ~1000 years ago. In fact, the melting of glaciers since the Little Ice Age is uncovering the remains of human settlements that prove it was warmer back then, before the glaciers buried them.
     
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    :lol: This just proves you don't know anything about the issue. Hawai'i has a water crisis, not a climate crisis, because there are millions of people living there now, not just thousands; each of them uses, on average, orders of magnitude more water for cleaning, industry, lawn maintenance on golf courses, etc. than the indigenous people ever used; and they are trying to sustain large-scale agricultural production with limited natural rainfall.

    But somehow, CO2 is to blame for all that?

    Run that one by me again.
     
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    True: it's not about climate at all. It's about competing uses for a limited fresh water resource.
     
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    I know a lot about Hawaii already and YOU still haven't provided a summary of the video which makes me wonder if you watched it......

    You have not showed any climate crisis at all.

    You are being lazy here.
     
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