Restaurant Workers Lose Their Jobs Over Newsom’s $20 Minimum Wage

While we are arguing a minimum wage, we are not focused on the fact that we have a minimum wage. Minimum wage keeps wages artificially low.

But for all of those screaming that California raising the minimum wage to $20 was going to be the end of the world, should take note that the minimum wage in california WAS at $16.....they got a 20% increase, but the state saved more money because that increase bumped more people off the welfare roles.

 

It's a waste of time to continue this.

 

It will put more people on the welfare roles. And will deny those people who will lose their jobs the opportunity to increase their human capital via increased work experience.

 

how will it put more on the welfare roles ?

 

When people lose their jobs they go on welfare.

 

So they had/have welfare? So now the $4 dollar raise is going to fill the GAP that welfare filled when they no longer qualify..

There it is, LEFTWING math folks This is called a PUSH, they lose welfare and then gain four bucks an hour. Maybe even DQ from Medical and a good number of perks low income bought them..

Its hard to believe folks today are this easily, manipulated..

 

Um.....the thread is about one Foster’s Freeze location. Not exactly the end of the world.

 

I agree.
You say min wage hurts workers and the overall economy because of jobs being lost.
Yet, the work pool size is triple what it was in 1938 while the population a little more than doubled.

Seems like min wage have no effect on reducing workers.
But may play a role in bringing in more workers to USA because of higher wages.

Those facts show up with history.

If what you say is true, increasing wages would mean we have less workers, not more.

 

Are you actually serious about that "analysis"??

 

So your saying that min wage costs taxpayers money because they go on welfare

I agree 1000%

So lets raise the minimum wage....

 

No. Increasing the minimum wage results in more people on welfare with no possible way to increase their human capital. Why, because they don't have a job and therefore cannot learn on the job or increase job experience.

 

Your claim is that increasing minimum wage outs people on welfare, and then somehow creates "no possible way to increase their human capital" ?

Your need to diagram out this six degrees of Kevin Bacon your making up here

 

If a person does not have a job they have no way to increase their human capital from work experience. That seems to me to be a very simple concept. How can I increase my work experience if I am not working.

 

There will be those who will protest this because hourly workers making $20 is a waste of money but paying the CEOs thousands an hour is perfectly fine.

 

Do you have a link supporting that the increase made workers indelible for welfare? If so, they are even more screwed.

When Min wage went up to $15, the first thing I noticed was self checkout at the grocery store and places like Home Depot became the norm.

 

Once again the progressives end up doing economic harm to those they profess to be helping. They seem unaware of what the intersection of the supply vs demand curves indicates.

 

How do you acquire wealth that has not been earned? Is there some secret magician that endows some with wealth? NO, there is not.
Earning is not the same process at all levels. The skill of an excellent manager can take a company that flounders and barely survives, and make it a big winner. In the same way, a manage lacking skill can take a company that is a winner- and turn it into a loser, quickly. The high paid people typically are high paid because the service they provide makes that difference. The fact they may invest and build their wealth and be able to pass it on to children is as fair and valid for them as for you.

People aren't poor because someone else has done well, but because they haven't. There are exceptions where dishonesty is relevant, but the majority of people who have achieved great wealth have earned it, but it's not measured in the hours of physical labor- but in the skills of managing, and the results that their leadership produces.

 

Within the state's college campuses, recent evidence emphasizes the struggle of students to afford meals, with some sacrificing nutrition to cover the costs of books and fees. Studies on food insecurity among college students in California have found prevalence rates ranging from one-quarter to more than one-half across various campuses. Eighty-four percent of college students consumed fast-food with 54% eating it at least once a week. Low cost and good taste were the main reasons students consumed fast-food, while high cost and preference for other restaurants were main reasons not to consume it. Links to the sources can be found at bottom of the last slide.

You have to wonder what this will bring having the $20 an hour minimum wage will bring.

 

Also (and this is always ignored by the Marxists) is that the reason productivity and consequently the standard of living has increased exponentially is technology. One man operating a bulldozer can do the work of 1000 men with shovels. Should the bulldozer operator be paid the combined wages of the 1000 shovelers? No because the cost of production includes now the time based depreciation of the bulldozer.

 

What is the issue with it?
More workers, tripled in fact, from the time min wage laws went into effect.

How does your claim that min wage and wage increases hurt workers and cost them jobs?
If your claim was true, there'd be no one working. As wages have most always gone up.

 

What the heck do you think?
Everyone that has ever lost a job has never found employment ever again? Makes no sense.

Especially since there are job postings that have been unfilled lately for the last 4 yrs.

For every door that closes, 10 more doors open.

 

That is not my claim.

 

Again that is not my claim.

 

And- the driver of the bulldozer is not making greater productivity possible- the person who invented the bulldozer is. Had that person not existed, the shoveling would still be happening.
The costs of operating a bulldozer include thousands of things- back to the mining of the iron that was turned into the steel that was used to fabricate the machine, and even then, the cost of the mining equipment invented and used to get the iron ore. Literally, thousands of visionaries over time make such things possible. These inventions make our labors much easier and more productive, but they do not alter the person's capacity, they only use that effort more effectively by providing methods and devices.

If you build an airplane and take off as the Wright brothers did- YOU are not flying, the plane is... As the pilot, you are along for the ride and to guide the machine.
Most of the sophistication we enjoy today is the result of a small percentage of our people who have the vision and the courage to go where none have gone before, and accomplished things that change the lives of all of us. We should be appreciative of that, and be motivated by it. The fact is, the visionaries of today are just as important, and the benefits they produce continue to change the world and our lives.

I have a grandson who has asked me many times- How do you invent things? Is there anything left to invent that doesn't require a genius to do? Yes, there are. Actually, I ran across one this morning, a device using existing fundamental concepts, made with existing materials and tools- created by a person using their minds better than most of us. It's going to be a world-wide success, and I suspect copied many times. I could build one in my own shop- and just might. Take a look...

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C2DKmSioow-/?ig_rid=69f00e9c-a65f-46ba-ab53-ec90995a1bab

 

It is. You keep repeating it over and over.