The Religious Left's Misguided View On Capital Punishment.

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He also lied to Adam and Eve and said they would die if they ate of it.

 

Just when I thought Conservatives couldn't be more sick and twisted, a thread like this comes along...

1. The death penalty is unsafe legally and it is certain that hundreds of innocent people have been executed in America. The work of the innocence project proves it.

For the moralists here, Christian or other wise; the execution of an innocent person is the most blatant offence against any religion that is possible because it is the ultimate offence against the Golden Rule.

2. The death penalty costs more than a life of incarceration.

3. The death penalty creates "closure" - for a real criminal if the wrong man was executed, and the police.

4. The death penalty is not a deterrent.

 

It's good to meet a liberal with a sense of humor - I think.

 

In the end, all you've got is the truth -- and, if you're smart, a sense of humor about it.

 

I'm afraid a policy like that would kill more Democrats than Republicans. Anyway, I think the death penalty becomes a monsterous act when it applies to crimes that don't rise to the level of murder. Most CP supporters feel that way. The Left's greatest point of hypocricy on this issue is that they preside over and support a silent holocaust of millions of innocent lives, people who have done no harm to anyone and unquestioningly don't deserve death. They leap at the chance to defend vicious murderers but then think nothing about snuffing out the lives of the most vulnerable among us.

And God is watching.

 

I'm all for using the death penalty in some of the more heinous cases of white collar crime. Anyone who is so pathologically greedy that they care not how many thousands of lives they destroy in their pursuit of mammon is not likely to respond well to rehabilitation.

I don't know about racial bigotry, but certainly class bigotry.

 

I don't think just because some innocents have been on death row (and likely have been executed) is a reason to do away with the death penalty. It's like throwing the baby out with the bath water. I do feel the bar should be set VERY high in a death penalty case and there should be NO doubt about guilt. We do have some cases that fit within that parameter.

On the argument about New Testament vs Old, I would say that Jesus did not believe in forgiveness for everyone and was not the cheek turner he is portrayed to be. That characterization denotes a naivete' that I don't think he had. For example....

"You are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father you will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and stayed not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it".

John 8:44

I will say this in general. It makes no sense for a society to want to impose a death sentence on someone for a single murder if it allows institutional murder in the form of unprovoked wars and late-term abortions. We should not have selective morality. JMO

 

Okay so let's see. You write a self-righteous piece of crap in which you repeatedly insult and label everyone who disagrees with your personal view (which is over 90% of the world btw - but you can take comfort that your views are shared enthusiastically by the more fundamental Muslim contries).
Then you do one of the two things that Christ detested above all - use religion as a means to further a political agenda (the other thing was using religion to make profit, btw). If only you could have called them hypocrites, the irony of this post would be complete.

BTW, I'm a Christian, with a degree in Christian Theology, I am actually not opposed to the death penalty but I can understand why the overwhelming majority of the world is. So although I disagree with them, I can acknowledge and even respect (reasonably put) differing views.

 

The death penalty is a monstrous act, period.

 

Would you in turn agree that it was a monstrous act of those that have murdered?

 

I like the word 'Jehovans'. Lot of them about! I shall keep my doors locked!

 

It is like the idea that you can swear oaths because it says so in the Old Testement, even though Jesus expressly forbids it. There is no God in most of the Old Testament, you know - just some travelling demon in fancy dress. Concentrate on the New Testament and avoid archaic nonsense.

 

Murder is a monstrous act, whether committed by the public, soldiers, police or the state executioner.

 

The death penalty becomes monstrous when it is only employed in cases of first degree murder, for then it is little more than a tool for primitive and barbaric revenge: "an eye for an eye making the whole world blind" as the saying goes.

However, when capital punishment is employed for the purpose of defending society from the malice of the incorrigible criminal, regardless of the commission of murder, then it is a noble policy and an indispensable tool for maintaining law and order, reinforcing the moral fiber of society, and (perhaps, most importantly) keeping our correctional facilities from degenerating into dysfunctional human warehouses which so often turn the salvageable inmate into the incorrigible criminal.

It is not just to incarcerate a first-time offender in a facility where he is surrounded by regressed incorrigible criminals, and then expect him to rehabilitate. In fact, it is downright unjust, cruel, and asinine.

 

Murder is the unlawful taking of human life.

Homicide, in the pursuit of self-defense, can only be construed as a "monstrous" act by the most pathetic sort of pacifist.

 

That's a load of dog scat right there. Intellectual and religious establishment types oppose the death penalty, but average men and women support it. Every time a jury of 12 applies the death penalty, they prove how full of crap you are.

Actually, I don't take comfort in any alliance whatsoever. My passion is for the truth, even if I alone defend it.

You have it exactly wrong. In fact, if you actually read this entire thread or threads just like it, you'll see the religious Left using passages of scripture to phrase Jesus as opposing capital punishment. The only time I use scripture is to demonstrate the truth that Jesus never has and never will stake out a political position. So what you accuse me of is precisely what the abolitionists are guilty of. You couldn't be more wrong if you took a college course in being wrong.

Then you can start by respecting mine.

 

Who is condemning self defense on here?

 

You know what's interesting about the Death Penalty?

It's revenge.
Not Justice.

 

It can only be revenge to the person who suffered the pain of loss at the hands of the killer, and - even then - not all the time.

The fact that it is both justice and protection for the rest of us is what is germane to this discussion, and also what defeats your contention.

 

OP is utter heresy.

The poster will have some explaining to do on a certain day.

 

In the bible there isn't something called you won't kill. Then that.

 

As a matter of fact, there was a priest present overseeing the stoning (check your bible) and such a death is the correct punishment laid out in Leviticus (check your bible). Jesus was thus interfering with the biblically-mandated punishment for the woman's transgression (formal trials were very rare in those days - check your ancient history).

Speaking of which, why aren't you calling for all the Leviticus punishments to be part of the United States justice system? If God doesn't change his mind and if all the words in the Bible are from God and if our justice system should use the Bible as its basis, we should be stoning to death adulterous women - after a formal trial, of course.

 

Hmmm. You start a thread that attacks and disrepects others. Plus it's well, really stupid and wrong. Then wonder why you don't get respect. Go figure.

BTW, When it came to those who wrongfully accused him, who wrongfully had him sentenced to death, what did Jesus do on the cross?

Like I said, I have no problem with the death penalty. But whether Islam or Christianity, I get annoyed by whackjobs who try to distort a religious message to further their personal agenda. You're pretty much like a fundamentalists Muslim, with the only difference being you're not calling for Jihad but rather, the recognition of God's political message of condemnation toward those of whom you disapprove.