Do Homosexuals Think They Can Get a Free Pass from God?

This is true.
But if America would only drop its medieval obsession with religious institutions, 'it' may forgive the nation for its contraventions.

 

Sin and your god does not exist. Get over it.

 

If God created us, doesn't that make deity a parent? Doesn't a parent love a child? Wouldn't God love his or her (depending on one's concept) children as well? Do most parents hate or condemn their children who happen to be homosexual? Would God? I don't believe so.

 

God did not create us. We evolved from an ape like creature some 6-8 million years ago. Human Chromosome 2 is proof of this.

 

The god they believe in will, at least for the time being.

So if I don't believe in the concept of murder, I can't commit murder?

We don't have to be taught what sin is, because that's something we're all born knowing. What we have to be taught is that sin is something only fools believe in.

Sin is a reality, not a concept.

So if someone raped and murdered your daughter, you would be no more perturbed at him than you would had he helped you change a flat tire. Have I got that about right?

I'd say the only punishment God ever does is corrective, and that He leaves punishment for any other purpose to the devil.

There is plenty of punishment in this life, obviously, from either source.

Actually I'd say Bible thumpers have been the homosexual activists' best friends, because the latter know instinctively that people who confirm their faith with pen and ink are far from God.

Like Hell you do.

The devil isn't dumb enough to show his contempt for his children before they are safely and permanently in his clutches.

Sometimes yes, sometimes no. Sometimes their love is counterfeit, like the love of a spoiling mother who can always be counted on to defend her children when they're wrong.

Yes, enough to cure that child of his or her malady - but only by the child's consent.

I'd say the tendency nowadays is toward the other extreme. The devil is OK with either.

 

Are you saying, what you know and believe about God comes from your own personal reasoning or musings. And from this, God is a she, and loves everyone?


Quantrill

 

To yguy

As long as the paper and ink are the Bible, then those who follow that paper and ink will be following God.

Quantrill

 

A homosexual can repent just as a murderer can, and be forgiven. Everyone sins, and none of us know for sure who has asked for forgiveness and has actually repented.....

Somebody once told me this: 'When you get to heaven, there will be three things that will surprise you. First, you're going to be surprised to see people there you thought you would never see. Second, you will be surprised because there will be people missing you thought would be there for sure. And finally, you will be in awe that you are there.'

 

I don't understand why some Christians are so obsessed with homosexuals anyways. If they truly believe that they are going to die and burn in hell forever for their so-called 'crimes' or 'sins' or whatever you want to call them, then what do they care what they do? They'll get what's coming to them eventually right? So leave them be. It's your god's place to judge them, not Christians place to judge them.

 

Sure it is! That's why it's fun. At least, that's what I've heard.

 

The Christian must call homosexuality the same as God does. We cannot ignore it.

There is a problem then, when homosexuals enter the church, with the purpose of being part of the church yet remaining homosexuals. The Christians cannot and should not allow it. We are to judge homosexuality as a great sin and having no place in our fellowships.

1Cor.5:12-13 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within? But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.

Quantrill

 

We're not judging them, we're trying to help them. We know they are going to die if they don't change, but we also know if we can help them to repent and quit what their doing then they will be forgiven. We're instructed to help Him bring the people to Him, and that means doing what we can to help them believe.

 

I don't know about that. I'm pretty sure I'd just be pissed off that I had to tell God how cool he is for the next few eternities.

 

It's a lot funnier to humor Christians, but also a little more frustrating and kind of cruel.

 

It's not going to be like that at all....but it sounds like you really don't care to find out the truth. Don't know what you'll be missing!!

 

Justice! Those good people had what was coming to them!

 

I think I'm fine with that. There're worse things to miss, like sleeping in on Sunday mornings.

Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away ... I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God ... And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, "Now the dwelling of God is with men, and he will live with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God. He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away. Revelation 21:1-4

Sounds like a really cool dictator. He'll me happy pills and doesn't afraid of anything. Get real...

 

I understand addressing homosexuals if you discover them in your church, but to harass and badger them on the streets or just in general is not appropriate behavior imho. If you go door to door and tell them, "Hey you're going to hell if you don't change!" And they respectfully decline joining your religion or even observing your deity then must you continue to pester them even after that? They have chosen to ignore your teachings and will receive the ultimate sentence in your opinion. Is it not enough that they will be getting hell in the next life that you must give them hell in this life too?

 

As a famous line from Clint Eastwood says, 'we all got it coming'.

But, the Christian doesn't because his sins are judged in Jesus Christ.

Quantrill

 

If they decline your 'help' because they truly believe they don't need any 'help' because they are perfectly good and normal human BEINGS, then why must you people continue to bother them?

The homosexuals who wish to be Christian are Christian, the homosexuals who wish to be 'fixed' will try and be 'fixed'. You can't just continue to force your will or your God's will upon others unless you want to live in a theocracy that is...

 

Funny how you chose to quote Leviticus when you just announced in another thread that Mosaic law has been fulfilled in Christ and thus doesn't bind you anymore. Ironic, isn't it?
Did Jesus ever mention homosexuality? No. Probably because unlike Paul, who while being a great theologian in many ways was also entwined in his very own bigotted views in others, Jesus wasn't bothered about it.

 

As another line from Clint Eastwood goes:

"Why didn't you call the police?"

"Well you know, I prayed for them to come but nobody answered."

 

I have no desire to pester homosexuals. I am against them and their lifestyle of course. I certainly don't want to go up to their door and harass them.

But, once a nation recognizes it as an acceptable lifestyle, and it is protected, then it will constantly be a problem in the Church. And must be addressed by the Church. I have no doubt one day the govt. will intervene in the Church's decision to oust homosexuals out of the Church or when a pastor is declined because he is a homosexual.

It won't be long before the Church that teaches the truth about homosexuality, as stated in the Bible will be accused of hate crimes. You can see the begining seeds of such attitudes on this forum already.

Quantrill

 

The Boy Scouts had to fight all the way to the Supreme Court to keep homosexuals out so it won't be long before lawsuits are filed against churches that don't want to hire homosexuals as clergy and religious workers.

 

And I personally never want to see that happen either. The churches believe what they do and have every right to allow or disallow whomever they wish into their buildings. So long as the church remains separate from the government and the government keeps its nose out of the churches I don't see a problem with this.

Although homosexuality isn't as easy to see as skin color or hair color. So how you would go about keeping out homosexuals is beyond me, unless you literally forced them to prove their sexuality and observe...