Do Homosexuals Think They Can Get a Free Pass from God?

Kid, don't even THINK of trying to out-Constitution the y-man.

Don't even.

Because to say the y-man understands the Constitution a million times better than you do is to damm the y-man with faint praise.

 

So in which Gospel did Jesus discuss homosexuality? I mean, if it were that big a deal, Jesus Himself, would have at least mentioned it specifically it once, right? Wrong.
He didn't.

This would be a good time to start a post that goes "Well He didn't say it specifically but... " Which is the exact opposite of what you just wrote above. Of course, if you have real character and honesty, you might go with "I was wrong. He never specifically discussed it. He discussed sexual immorality in general" (which anyone of any persuasion can commit)

That would put you miles above the weaklings like Quantrill in my signature below. Lying about the Bible, God etc... in order to win personal or political arguments is a pet peeve of mine. It was one of Jesus' too.

 

Id recommend I continue to read the Bible. Then I go to the polls and exercise my freedom to vote.

Quantrill

 

Then you are not for freedom.

 

I suggest that you concentrate on the actual teachings of Christ while doing so. Even though that might leave you in a dilemma when trying to cast your vote. If you want to follow His example you won't find a party that's concerned enough about loving the poor and the outcasts to be worth voting for.

 

To yguy

Mark 10:17-21 is not addressing the Pharisees which we were talking about. Jesus was addressing one who was seeking eternal life. I believe that is a major difference.

Quantrill

 

Really? Why?

Quantrill

 

When you demonstrate that you know the actual teachings of Christ, then I might pay heed to your request. But until then, it means nothing.

Quantrill

 

What we were talking about is your claim that anyone who follows the Bible is following God. The rich man claimed to be following the Bible of his day, and Jesus told him that wasn't enough.

 

This is the problem. Right here: the fetish of all communists, statists, and fascists. Mob rule, where the mob doesn't even care about what its ruling or by what authority. I'm so glad the antifederalists lost this debate... and it's scary to think people are still around who willfully misunderstand so many crucial things on so many topics.

 

So contemplating the teachings of Christ only means something to you under the condition that an anonymous internet-user demonstrates she knows them? Don't you think that Jesus is more important than I am? Please, don't let your dislike to me keep you from reading the gospels!

 

You are not voting your conscious, you are voting for a book that tells you what is right and wrong.

That’s not freedom.

 

The rich man was wanting to obtain eternal life by doing something through the law. The Mosaic law was only a part of the Bible. But, the law never was a method of obtaining eternal life. The law was given to find men guilty, because they were guilty. Faith in God was always the way to obtain eteran life.

So, when the rich man claims to have done all that the law required, there was still no eternal life. Because though he was religious, it was not because he wanted to be right with God. He wanted to appear religious. Thus when Christ told him to sell all he has and follow Him, he couldn't. His possessions meant more to him. Had he truly wanted to follow God, he would have hated the hold the possessions had on him and turned and followed Christ.

So, yes, if a man is following the Bible he is following God. This man was not. As the law never was to give eternal life.

Quantrill

 

My like or dislike of you never affects any reading of the Gospels. You however want to give me advice on reading the Gospels yet you dont believe them. So why should what you say have any meaning to me.

Quantrill

 

My views are going to be governed by my Christian faith. There is nothing I can do about that. Its freedom for me to be able to vote any way I want to vote.

Quantrill

 

There is plenty you can do about that.

Like start to listen evidence and not an ancient book written some 2,000 years ago when man was living on dirt floors.

But because you choose to remain willfully ignorant, you are not for freedom.

 

you don't have a right to vote away other peoples rights. how other 2 consenting adults live, is none of your business. homosexuality does not affect you in any way shape or form.

 

Well, we were actually discussing freedom within a country, not due to ones beliefs.

If you want to begin that discussion, then no, I am not free. I am a slave of God. Bought and paid for by the blood of Christ.

Quantrill

 

So if a piece of legislation comes to the voters to decide concerning something to do with homosexuality, your saying I do not have a right to vote?

Quantrill

 

because you are trying to RESTRICT other peoples freedom.

how do you not get this?

 

Yeah, he was doing the right things for the wrong reasons, just like people who think they're right with God because they obey the Bible, deceiving themselves into the belief that they're doing it because they love God. That's why Paul observed that "the spirit giveth life, but the letter killeth."

You say that like it follows from what you said, but it doesn't.

He wasn't following God, but he was following the scripture.

 

you can vote on anything you like. but when you vote away other peoples rights(like prop 8 did in CA)that vote is meaningless, and will be immediatly declared unconstitutional, as prop 8 was in CA.

demonstrating once again, that you don't have the right to vote away other peoples rights.

 

Again my question, if some legislation comes before the voters to vote on concerning something to do with homosexuals or homosexuality, then your saying I should not be allowed to vote?

Quantrill

 

Homosexuals didn't have any right taken from them. They can get married. What they want is to call their liasons Marriage. and it isn't.

 

No, he wasn't following the Scripture, because the Law never gave anyone eternal life. But he was wanting to obtain it by doing something. And the Scriptures teach that salvation is always only by faith. Had he wanted to follow God, he would have followed Christ at that moment and gave up all.

Had he followed the Scriptures he would have followed Christ.

Quantrill