Men - What do you propose to do to effectively reduce the abortion rate?

No, what I am advocating is for a 99% at least effective MALE contraceptive. At present we do not have one

and 14% failure rate means every one of those "failures" is an unwanted pregnancy - which will do nothing to reduce and everything to increase the abortion rate.

Abortions most commonly occur because the pregnancy is unwanted - woman cannot afford it etc. Advocating for a contraceptive method with a high failure rate (and please compare it to other methods) is just asking for more abortions to happen

 

You could call a vasectomy a male contraceptive with a failure rate below 1%. Unfortunately, it isn't easily reversed.

Do you think that there is a biological reason for the prevalence of female contraceptives or should the medical researchers and their funding sources be blamed for the lack of variety in male contraceptives?

 

Never marry or get involved with a sucubus american woman.

 

Someone who worked in the pharmacy industry once pointed out to me that there was, essentially no profit to be made in selling a male contraceptive because that would erode the market for female contraceptives.

I just get a little tired of seeing males on abortion threads railing about "women who do not keep their legs together" and "use abortion as contraception" while at the same time not even mentioning the huge societal disparity between onus of contraception

 

What you don't realize is the great majority of those unwanted pregnancies are from guys just shooting into the woman. No thought process what-so-ever. Making it to where every father and mother tells their son to pull out until the timing is right, means 86% of unwanted pregnancies disappear overnight. All that is left is a battle to prevent the last 14%. Even when teaching kids to use contraception, health class still pushes to with drawl. To advocate against with drawl makes me question your intentions.

 

IMO, a woman should not be having sex with a man she isn't committed to.

 

Then I wonder what your opinion is about this. A girl who is made to believe that she is ugly, will frequently have sex with guys without commitment. I know one, her friends keep teasing her that she is ugly, and now that she almost believes it, she stepped up her campaign for guys double speed.

 

The girl is a slut, then. There is someone out there for everyone, if you aren't willing to wait, then...well, I don't approve. That doesn't mean I'd try and tell other people what to do, though...

 

Yes and the same goes for the man which is what I have been saying all along. In fact a MUTUAL commitment is ideal. So...Why are we teaching our children to have 'safe' sex? Is a commitment too moral or something?

 

What's wrong with teaching children to have safe sex with the person they are going to commit to? Just because you are committed to someone doesn't mean you shouldn't be careful and it certainly doesn't mean you want to reproduce with that person right away either.

 

Making it illegal would help. Also, promoting MORAL STANDARDS in school would help, but (*)(*)(*)(*)ing liberals think that praying in school will offend the 3 muslim kids.

 

The purpose of school is to learn basic skills such as arithmetic, Science, English, and to also learn History. It is not there so that the government may indoctrinate children with other people's morals. Morals should be promoted by the parents and family of each individual child. Your moral standards have no place over my children as mine have no place over yours.

My moral standards say abortion is perfectly moral and acceptable and I will be sure to teach my daughters this. If you have daughters and wish to teach them abortion is unacceptable then that is your choice to raise them that way. But don't go forcing your morals onto my life, my body, and my children or even those of your neighbors.

As for the prayer comment, it is my understanding that the first amendment protects free speech, however would you agree that there is a time and a place for everything? Prayer between classes maybe, but to ignore your teacher to pray in the middle of class seems like an inappropriate time to do this and may be disruptive to the class.

 

What if the teacher is a Muslim, and wants to lead the class in a Muslim prayer, how would you feel about that?

 

Just because you have a commitment to someone, doesn't mean you want to have kids with them!

 

And what are your moral standards? Also, why should kids have to pray in schools anyway? You want to pray, go to bloody church.

 

Teaching 'safe sex' to children IS teaching 'other people's' morals.

Well good for you but for those who don't believe in abortion, it is difficult to teach their kids that abortion is immoral when their daughters can get an abortion without parents' consent. All she has to do is see the school nurse or go to the local PP in States without a 'policy.' In other words, UNLESS States adopt a 'policy' the kid can suck your grandchild down a drain. That is State dictated morals.

 

I am in favor of allowing children to be opted out of sex education classes in school. My mother opted me out of mine and taught me all about safe sex, contraceptives, periods, the need for bras and other fun girl stuff all on her own. No classes necessary. Although it's good that they are available for parents who don't feel comfortable about or don't know how to discuss this with their children.

My school even provided a list of everything that was going to be discussed with us along with the paperwork with the option to opt their child out of the class. This is how I believe it should be. I do agree forcing this on minors without their parent's consent is wrong. Perhaps that's why there is a rise in home schooling?

Whether or not you can keep track of your own children is not mine or anybody else's problem. If you can't keep the leash on them and control their behavior like you want to, it's certainly not our fault and no reason to deny everyone else and their children the medical services they need.

 

So don't take the risk. It really is as simple as that!

 

Making it illegal would help what? It sure doesn't reduce the abortion rate. Oh, BTW, about that teacher-led prayer in school--sometimes the teacher IS muslim, so who will those prayers offend?

 

It would bring law and order into some sense of continuity and coherence. Allowing abortion homicide at will certainly causes problems with law and order. That is why we see cases like the recent one where an abortion clinic killed born children. It simply isn't very different from killing them in utero.

 

So a case where a clinic was flagrantly breaking the law proves that making another law would make people follow the law??? HUH???

 

Whoa! What planet do you live on?

 

Whose morals, mine, yours, baptists, catholics, hebrews, muslims, atheists, JW's, Mormons, Buddhists? Or some other set of superstitious moral values.

 

People like you are one of the reasons so many children have abortions. They fear your religious bigotry and hatred, and fear to tell you when they have a problem that could be worked out if you were capable of helping instead of accusing. They seek abortion or at times suicide to avoid having to deal with the likes of you.

 

So well said.