Sarkozy calls Netanyahu 'liar'

What a pity then that Obama vetoes justice for Palestine and Sarkosy abstains from it.



We see you, boys.

 

Meaning that Israel = aggressive war. You nailed it on the spot with that one. Israel exists to wage aggressive wars against hated Semites.

 

At least he didn't say that his father smelt of elderberries.

 

You don't get it. You're agreeing that he's a liar. That means you don't get to act slimy and pass the buck.

Stand up using your own vertebrae. If you can.

We are now at post #54, and not one upstanding anti-Israel poster has offered to explain why they agree on Sarkosy's pejorative directed at Netanyahu. Even after I asked for evidence 24 posts ago.

That's pathetic and transparent.

 

Netanyahu is a lying Semite-hater because he pretends to want peace, but then turns around and expands illegal Settlements. If he accepted the Road map in 2009, as he lied, then why is Israel still trying to destroy the nation of Palestine?

 

I have no problem with it.

In fact anyone who is surprised by these comments, both Sarkos and Barrys isnt paying attention very closely.

Its all Bibis fault Obamas failed to pull the US out its pit of despair is it?

 

I think that the problem is that republicans attempt to force for Obama to spend more time with Netanyahu than with the American people, since Republicans realize that Netanyahu is a liar and thus has a negative impact on Obama's reputation, reducing his ability to be reelected.

 

We'll start with his last speech to Congress, will we? That has two obvious blatant ones!

1) Israel ‘fully supports the desire of the Arab peoples in our region to live freely’

2)"I am willing to make painful compromises to achieve this historic peace."

 

lol ,the Euro and the rial.

http://articles.businessinsider.com...-zone-oil-sales-north-sea-brent#ixzz1d8w6Ga1d



Russia quietly starts to shift its oil trade into rubles

 

I knew about Iran.but not Russia..but Russia's safe....it's got nukes!

 

The video of Netanyahu calling himself a liar is quite educational- provided you believe him, of course.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=7Tps_VhlbZA

 

Britain believes that Binyamin Netanyahu, the Israeli prime minister, is an "armour-plated bull(*)(*)(*)(*)ter". Campbell writes that this was the foreign office description of Netanyahu in April 1998 during Tony Blair's first visit to the Middle East during as prime minister.

This is what Campbell wrote on 17 April 1998:

In the end a lot depended on Netanyahu, or the armour-plated bull(*)(*)(*)(*)ter as some of the FCO guys called him.

Ehud Barak, the former Israeli prime minister who recently left the Labour party to strengthen his coalition with Netanyahu, also believes the Israeli prime minister is a bull(*)(*)(*)(*)ter.

This is what Campbell wrote on 20 April 1998:

We had a meeting with [Ehud] Barak [Labor Party leader], who was OK but not everything he had been cracked up to be. He said he was pessimistic because Bibi was a total bull(*)(*)(*)(*)ter.

 

Is there actual recording of the comments or just someone angry they didn't get the first interview saying he said it? News doesn't always mean facts. If there is a recording of it then :whelp: but if not I take this with a grain of salt.

 

What? Netanyahu's statement about the Road Map to Peace was very clear, and was made in 2009:

In January 2009, prior to the February 2009 Israeli elections, the then election front-runner and leader of Israel's right-wing Likud party, Benjamin Netanyahu, informed Middle East envoy Tony Blair that he would continue the policy of the Israeli governments of Ariel Sharon and Ehud Olmert by allowing "natural" growth of settlements in the West Bank, in contravention of the Road Map, but not building new ones[21]

And he was elected based upon this platform. His statement continued to be very clear: he wanted "natural growth" to continue: that is, as Olmert (IIRC) stated, "the ability for a families in settlement areas to have children, and not simply stop because there is a settlement freeze".

That is not a lie. You may not like it; you may not agree with it, but there is no way in hell you can legitimately call it a lie.

There is a difference between the expansionism you could legitimately whine about, and what Netanyahu - and the PM's before him - were willing to accept. NO Israeli PM accepted the portion of the Road Map to Peace that was so restrictive as to forbid settlers having children; such a demand is ridiculous.

Further, Palestinians have their own responsibilities to uphold wrt to the Road Map, including living up to their promises of increased security, and a cessation of incitement (neither of which they have accomplished; both of which they agreed to prior).

So seriously: you're going to need to do much better than that if you're going to support the notion that Netanyahu is a liar...but I suspect that if that was your best effort, your subsequent attempts are going to be funny.

 

Getting lied to by Bibi

Unaware that their microphones were still on after a G-20 press conference in Cannes last week, French President Nicolas Sarkozy and U.S. President Barack Obama were overheard expressing their true opinion of Binyamin Netanyahu on a personal level. The author had the same impression during a 1993 interview with Netanyahu.

So now Sarkozy says Netanyahu is a “liar” and that he “can’t stand” him, and Obama moans that that’s nothing, he has “to deal with him every day.” Join the club, fellas. Tony Blair and his team considered Netanyahu an “armor-plated bull(*)(*)(*)(*)ter,” according to his aide Alistair Campbell; Bill Clinton couldn’t stand him, and if it hadn’t been for the Holocaust, imagine what Angela Merkel would be saying about Netanyahu now.

Our Bibi is a piece of work. It’s not his right-wing politics; Sharon was right-wing, certainly in his first term, Shamir was right-wing, Begin was right-wing, and foreign leaders didn’t talk about any of them like they talk about Netanyahu.

Some said Begin was stubborn and argumentative, Shamir was a brick wall (I don’t remember anybody badrapping Sharon personally) – but I don’t recall any world leader complaining that they were intolerable, that they were liars like they do about Netanyahu. And with the exception of Ehud Barak –a different sort of piece of work, even more arrogant than Netanyahu and a physically violent bully, but much less of a liar – no Israeli prime minister ever alienated his political allies at home like Netanyahu did in his first term. (Though it must be said that he’s gotten over that problem in his current term.)

What is it about this guy? Besides the lying, what is it that makes foreign statesmen, not to mention his opposition at home, find him intolerable – “revolting,” as I put it in an August 2005 Jerusalem Post column that looked at this question. To help answer it, I told a personal anecdote:

I was interviewing Netanyahu in his Jerusalem office for a profile in summer 1993, a couple of months after his book, A Place Among the Nations – Israel and the World, came out. After awhile I started asking him various policy questions, and he started replying, ‘Read my book.’ Finally I told him, ‘I did.’

He looked at me sideways, skeptically, and asked, ‘Did you read it or just skim it?’ I told him, ‘No, I read it.’

Jerusalem Post editor David Horovitz has written of Netanyahu’s technique of ‘giving the voters those extra two seconds of full-on, ultra-sincere eye contact to lock up their support.’ A few minutes after telling Netanyahu I’d read his book, I got my two seconds.

Sitting behind his desk he paused, fixed me with the look and said, ‘Larry, I think you understand my vision better than any Israeli journalist.’

I recall lowering my eyes and trying to make the wince on my lips look like a smile of appreciation, and went on to the next question.

This was nothing new, a politician feeding a journalist some flattering nonsense in the hope of getting sympathetic coverage. But what nonsense! He didn’t know me from Adam, I’m sure he’d never read anything I’d ever written, I’d been talking to him for all of an hour and he tells me he thinks no Israeli journalist has plumbed his depths like I have.

He was telling me a lie, but it was such a bad lie, such a ridiculous one. How could he expect that it would work, that it would get me on his side? Later I thought about that, and I asked myself: What sort of person tells ridiculously bad lies? A stupid person. But stupid is one thing Netanyahu definitely isn’t.

So what sort of intelligent person tells really bad lies? Answer: One who thinks the person he’s lying to is stupid, stupid enough to believe him.

I don’t think I gave Netanyahu any reason to think I was stupid. I think he just naturally assumes that about everybody – that he can tell anybody anything and get away with it, that everybody’s a gullible simpleton except him.

And that, finally, is what makes Netanyahu so uniquely offensive to watch: It’s not just the preening that shows he has such a high opinion of himself, it’s the outrageousness of his bull(*)(*)(*)(*) that shows he has such a low opinion of his audience.

The funny thing is that this guy is considered Israel’s Great Communicator – and he is, but with a very, very narrow audience. Republicans, AIPAC-owned Democrats, right-wing Zionists and the uninformed. Everybody else thinks he’s a liar and can’t stand him. A piece of work, our Bibi.

 

No Judge I think Obama has had plenty of time spent "with the American people" to get more done. The problem is clear, he wants his agendas fulfilled and he truly will sacrifice popularity to get them done and in a way thats nice...despite most of the initiatives hitting snags,hes tried. The problem with that is if one becomes too unpopular, too fast you lose the chance to swing the momentum the other way and even your own party becomes a little standoffish.As we know support for Israel aka Zionism is hardly only a GOP trait.

I wonder if Sarkozy calls Obama liar when he's not around,in private.....God knows it would be true.

 

Bibi is terrified of the settlers who have vowed to bring down his government is he accepts any peace proposal.

 

http://www.jpost.com/LandedPages/PrintArticle.aspx?id=175133

 

1) There are plenty of Arab people within the confines of Israel that live as Israelis do, so that's clearly not been proven false. Rather, it's a priori evidence of factuality.

2) So your claim of lies comes down to what Netanyahu's definition of "painful" is?

That's horribly weak.

 

he even lies about his own name

Mileikowsky!!

 

In June 2009 Netanyahu announced Israel's acceptance of the Road Map while simultaneously rejecting a settlement freeze which is a main Israeli requirement under the Road Map
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Road_map_for_peace

A freeze of settlement construction is the main requirement of the Road Map. Netanyahu thus lied that Israel accepted the Road Map, as you acknowledge. In your own words, you explained why Israel has always unconditionally opposed the Road Map while lying about supporting such. One cannot expand illegal settlements and support the Road Map at the same time without being a liar. Netanyahu is thus a liar, a bigot and an anti-Semite.

 

Here's a good one;

That's from the Israel press article entitled;

' Netanyahu's speech of lies '

Are you still here, subdermal ?

 

That entire screed did not contain one lie. Can you point it out for me?

 

Bollox..by natural growth he didn't mean pregnancy.....he meant more houses for settlers.!


Did you see my couple of quotes...post #58?

 

Doesn't matter. A lie would be if he said he accepted the Road Map, and didn't attach conditions - and then acted in conflict with the Road Map.

That's not what he did, and you know it. You just don't like him; you don't like Israel; we get it.