Albanian Kills Serb Because He wouldn't Sell his Property

How dare you to compare 'this' to some (*)(*)(*)(*)ing myth spreading propaganda-which is practically something you do while saying that Serbs in Bosnia are not Bosnians. Belonging to a country goes always before belonging to an ethnicity or would you consider accepting that Bosniaks in Macedonia claim themselves to be BOSNIAN ? or Albanians. If that is son and if that is what average Macedonian 'Slav' thinks than behavior of Albanians in Macedonia is totally ok and understandable.

 

To be clear, local orthodox populus in Bosnia and Herzegovina are not only Serbs. Bosnia and Herzegovina consists of national minorities besides constitutional ethnic groups and according to that: ukranians, montenegrins, macedonians, rusins and romanians also belong to local orthodox populus.
Though, no one prohibits you to claim where and to who you belong but for the sake of 'facts' we clearly speak about the real origins which are far different than those which is learned and which forced us to think that we all are Slavs 100% and that's where it ends. Well we are obviously not Also what you think is not necessarily real .

 

Now what? Look at the above response to MegaArgus.

What facts? Your facts? You people are just lifting data from the internet pages, claiming this or that, while we have no real idea about the data/# samples or anything else.
As we already concluded, there's no 'purity' by blood line, but no one forced us to believe in anything, it's ridiculous claim. I understand your and yours alike position and your search for every little to give you a leverage over opponents, but even it's has become trendy, I won't go that way 'cause I feel comfortable with who we, Serbs are and who I personally am.

 

Gjergj Skanderbeu

 

This is 2011 not 1911. Most people don't care about religion anymore. I'm an Agnostic.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Albania

 

Could not have said it better myself.

 

You're just making fun out of your own nation.

 

There wasn't a real need for a Cathedral; It was an attempt to link overwhelmingly Muslim society to EU, which is predominately Christian.

 

I just needed to keep AGS busy.

 

I doubt that that's the ONLY reason, if one at all. Governents are not heartless you know.

 

Bosnians in Macedonia claim to be Bosnians not Macedonians. Albanians in Macedonia claim to be Albanians not Macedonians. I do agree that bonging to a country should always be before ethnicity but that is not the case in Balkans.

 

Albanians are special. We hole on to our traditions no matter who is controlling Albania. I think Nationality is not by culture but by tradition. If you are in Macedonia but you celebrate Bosnian traditions than you are Bosnian First, Macedon Second.

 

For me culture and traditions are similar things. I can distinguish biology from spirit. The spirit is national awareness in which the culture and traditions are the core of that, but the biology could be Slavs, Illyrians, Celts, Germanic, Romans..... probably Albanians or better say proto-Albanians

 

Than why is my previous claim taken as racist ? This is Balkans and I am racist for calling Serbs local orthodox population,i.e local Bosnian orthodox population?!

 

Of course governments are heartless;their job is to govern not to go emotional when dealing with an ongoing problems.
I already pointed out the reason and if you think just for a sec about declining Cristian population in our Southern Province and new Cathedral you'll notice on your own that something is very wrong over there.

 

Your DP doesn't suit your words; It's just what I have noticed, not that I care really.

 

What is the Bosnian formula? Can we say that the Bosnians are the people of Bosnia who may have any religion even though they may have Serbian or Croatian origin (help me about the origin of the Muslims).

 

It does not surprise anyone that Christian Serbs are leaving our North Eastern Provence. Serbs and Albanians don't get along very well (I shouldn't have to tell you that). As for Christian Albanians. I know quite a few so i'll share something that I share a lot these days. Albanians are NOT religious people. Religion, to us, is just a title that has no depth or meaning. Where has religion gotten us? The Muslim Ottomans have destroyed us. Christian Serbs are continuously damaging Ethnic Albania. We were the first atheist country to ever exist. Most Muslim Albanians have heavy Arabic backgrounds(Turkey, Egypt, Algeria,etc.).

 

Let me guess your foundation lies with Enver Hoxha an albanian atheist commmunist who for years had been trying to increase real estate in kosovo, montenegro, northern greece, macedonia, and parts of bulgaria.

Enver Hoxha wanted a Soviet invasion into Yugoslavia after 1968 invasion of czechoslovakia and wanted an assasination of Tito and the soviets rewarding the albanians with those territories...

Now the Soviet Union dies off... You guys manipulate the atrocities of the bosnian wars for your gains using the Albanian lobby to talk to certain special interest groups in New York which I will not mention in this post...

And the civil war just benefits albanian political interests for MORE REAL ESTATE using these freedom/independence movements that doesnt carry any justification whatsoever...because of the past blood history in ottoman-enver hoxhas agenda for greater albanian communist land grab.


You guys don't want to take a stance on religion because you guys know very well it will divide you politically so you use ATHEISM TO TRY TO UNIFY YOUR POLITICAL STANCE..

I KNOW YOUR TRICKS

 

So an Albanian (Muslim) killed a Serb (Christian)? Is that right? Is this not religious more than it is ethnic? Why do so many Albanians live in Kosovo? Why did the US (Clinton Administration) support the Albanians against the Serbs when they are guilty of atrocities and of pretty much starting the war in Kosovo? Can someone explain this to me.

 

Why do so many Albanians live in Kosovo?

I can answer the question very easy. Google New york times article entitled

"Exodus of Serbians Stirs Province in Yugoslavia" By Marvine Howe from July 12, 1982.

Albanians have bloodfued vendetta codes that replace Legal rule of a government /state. In communist socialist yugoslavia, they were unable to enforce their rules on them because albanians have their own lek dukajini codes that unfiy them whether they are christian or not... or atheist. thats their religion.


Is this more religion than ethnic?

Yes...Of course it is... Despite titos version of communism in yugoslavia, people had been able to practice their religion under the table and many of the religious artifacts /sites had been designated as tourist attractions for state revenue since yugoslavia wasn't make any revenue to support itself to remain on the map of an atlas...

A footnote:

Whats the difference between Josip Titos version of Communism and the Soviet Union version of Communism?

Its a big difference...

Josip Broz broke away from the warsaw pact of WWII for several reasons.
Soviet Union leader Joe Stalin wanted to control yugoslavia and turn it into a satellite state by sending spies and media groups to show the citizens of yugoslavia how they defeated the NAZI germans from occupation when actually Josip Broz Tito defeated the NAZI occupation himself... Tito got mad and told Joe Stalin to JOE BLOW HIMSELF OUTTA HERE...Stalin didn't like it and there was a quarrel between them...And it never was resolved...

you could google Tito-Stalin split or differences....


In the 1950s, Stalin died but maniac krushchev invaded hungary and decades later invaded czechoslovakia...and THEY (SOVIETS) WANTED TO INVADE YUGOSLAVIA.. OF COURSE THEY WANTED THE ADRIATIC COAST...

TITO DECLARED NEUTRALITY....

Why did yugoslavia fall apart? If Tito had gone to the capitalist route like communist china had been doing now....Maybe yugoslavia would be on the Rand McNalleys Atlas Map...

Yugoslavia had followed a watered version down of communism where its a blend of socialism and some capitalism but not in a grand scale... with alot of corruption from politicans stealing money and raking up huge bills with the world bank and the IMF... and the IMF had screwed yugoslavia with loan they were unable to pay which devalued the yugoslav dinar...

Enver Hoxha and Josip Broz Conflict-


Communist leader Enver Hoxha wanted extra real estate for albanians because he came from the greater albanian thinkers of the 1900s pre-ottoman time... He just followed a different ideology...But the same quest..He promoted illegal albanian immigration into kosovo which infuriated josip broz tito.. And he knows about the split between tito and stalin..
and there were accounts where he wanted an assasinatoon of tito..working with the soviet union..

 

um?
1: I'm not a communist.
2: I'm Agnostic as I said before. Look it up if you don't know what it is.
3: I'm not (Nor will I ever) using the Bosnian massacres for my own gain.
4: Save your ridiculous conspiracy theories at home.
5: Facts are not tricks.

 

I was talking about Catholic Albanians and our Southern Province of Kosovo and Metohija.

Sure thing, but at least, no matter our differences, you're somewhat alright Albanian (same as poster 'Free thinking Albanian'), cultured and polite.

Not really, it's something you, Albos like to potentiate in order to stay unified. Reality is very different.
'Religious belief declined significantly in Yugoslavia after World War II, but the drop was not uniform throughout the country. In the censuses of 1921 and 1948, religious believers accounted for over 99 percent of the population. Secularization followed closely the postwar government programs of modernization, urbanization, and vigorous antireligious propaganda. A 1964 survey (Yugoslavia's last nationwide study of religion through 1990) described 70.3 percent of Yugoslavs as religious believers. The areas with the highest percentage of religious believers were Kosovo (91 percent of the population) and Bosnia and Hercegovina (83.8 percent); those with the lowest were Slovenia (65.4 percent), Serbia (63.7 percent), and Croatia (63.6 percent).
http://atheism.about.com/library/world/KZ/bl_YugoReligionDemography.htm

Of course... If you wish 'Ethnic Albania' we wish 'Ethnic Serbia', Croats want 'Ethnic Croatia' and so on... Got my point?

 

I am flattered you think I am cultured and polite. As for you. You seem alright to me. I have met too many Serbs that havent treated me with the same decency.
In our North Eastern province of Kosovë(*)and the rest of Albania I have quite a lot of friends and family. Out of those numbers, most of them are not religous although alot of them are Muslim. My family is mostly Agnostic. I have Catholic Albanian friends too. we all get along swimmingly with each other. We are Albanian first. I guess you will have to take my word on that though because I really don't see how I can prove that and it is very important to me to be able to back up what I say before I say it. I can agree we all want ethnic countries but Albania has been the most unsuccessful country in the Balkans to actually achieve that goal so we want it more than anyone I believe. Albania has been conquered by every empire including your own so we are more determined than ever now to finally reattain what rightfully belongs to us. This includes just about half of Montenegro and Macedonia. Also is that study from 1964 because it has been quite a while since then?