Albanian Kills Serb Because He wouldn't Sell his Property

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  1. AGS

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    Hey

    1)THIS WHOLE POSTS IS ABOUT ALBANIANS AND NOT ABOUT AN INDIVIDUAL LIKE YOU.

    2)CIA WORLD FACTBOOK DESCRIBES ALBANIA AS 70% MUSLIM, 20% ORTHODOX CHRISTIAN and 10% ROMAN CATHOLIC. THEY PROVIDE CREDIBLE MATERIAL OVER YOUR ALBANIAN ATHEIST PROPAGANDA. BESIDES IN ALBANIA THEY ARE PLANNING TO MAKE A MOSQUE AND MUSEUM IN TIRANA AS A NEW ARCHITECTURAL WONDER. LOOK IT UP MR ATHEIST ALBANIAN.

    3) ITS NOT A CONSPIRACY THAT CROAT DICTATOR TITO HAD CONFLICT WITH DICTATOR ENVER HOXHA OVER ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IN THE BORDERS.. go look it up in the new york times...
    THATS NOT A CONSPIRACY THATS A FACT...
     
  2. General Winter

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    "Last week at the Russian Embassy in Belgrade was given a list with the names of 21 000 Kosovo Serbs who wish to obtain Russian citizenship - said "Alo!"

    They did it because of a concerns for their safety and of a disbelief that the government of Serbia is able to protect their lives and property.

    - Since the arrival of peacekeeping forces, under whose protection we are, have been killed over a thousand Serbs. We are completely powerless, a biological extinction threatens us, we are witnesses of the fact that in recent years even in Serbia, there are parties, campaigning for recognition of the state of Kosovo. In Russia we see the only salvation - said Zlatibor Djordjevic from Leshka, the initiator and one of the signatories of a petition for Russian citizenship, a former attorney for the Democratic Party of Kosovo and Metohija."

    http://dymmfox.info/?p=956
     
  3. Mishko

    Mishko New Member

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    This isn't really a NATO topic but I guess Ill comment anyway. I know that NATO and Serbians are fighting at the Serbian borders. I think it is wrong that NATO jumped to violence so quickly. As for Russia, I respect those who stick with their Comrades and Allies.
     
  4. Mishko

    Mishko New Member

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    Calling me an Atheist when I clearly stated that I was an Agnostic is called slander. Albania can build as many mosques as it wants to. I never said all Albanians were not religous but a lot of them are not. If you want to call me an atheist again go right ahead but your only making yourself look immature and irrational.
    Also, saying that Albanians are using the Bosnian war for self gain should be the definition of extremist conspiracy theory. Also, link me that article saying that Enver Hoxha wanted Tito dead.
    You clearly called me a communist Atheist by saying and I quote :

    "You guys don't want to take a stance on religion because you guys know very well it will divide you politically so you use ATHEISM TO TRY TO UNIFY YOUR POLITICAL STANCE" ~ AGS

    "I KNOW YOUR TRICKS" ~AGS

    I want proof ^
     
  5. General Winter

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    This information is not about NATO but about the state of the Serbs in Kosovo.
     
  6. ValmirZz

    ValmirZz New Member

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    One Serbian died all this debate!
    Phyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy:hmm:
     
  7. Mishko

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    Innocent people should never be killed.
     
  8. frozy

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    um why do so many Italians live in US?
    It is not that religious cause they simply don't put it as priority in their lives :bored: I don't really see point to discuss if they are being religious or not with NON-ALBANIANS -.-''
    They are guilty for atrocities to much less extent than 'Serbs' ie Serbian military and paramilitary forces together.
    The red part: you know according to that logic Bosnians are guilty for being massacred for wanting to be independent ie 'starting a war' ie making Serbs take arms in their hands not to mention Slovenia and Croatia. Shame on them:bored:
     
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    frozy New Member

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    :bored:you know that they'll skip this post like you never said it,right?
     
  10. AGS

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    No , it is not a conspiracy theory for albanians using the bosnian war as a self-gain..This is a fact and you can hear every Albanian always referencing the bosnian civil war as their own cause...thats fact...

    Look at some of your posts..

    Enver Hoxha had a personal dislike of Josip Broz Tito...thats also a fact...They didnt like each other...Look it up in the New York Times from articles in the 1950s and early 1960s...

    Well this discussion is not about your personal belief but albanian people in general ... WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT YOU ..BUT ALBANIAN PEOPLE IN GENERAL ..NOW YOU SOUND SO NARCISSICTIC...

    I already had given FACTS FROM THE CIA WORLD FACTBOOK ABOUT ALBANIAN RELIGIOUS denomination which DIFFERS FROM YOUR OPINIONS.
    There is a difference between OPINIONS and FACTS... 70% of albanians are practicing MUSLIMS and NOT ATHEISTS OR AGNOSTICS LIKE YOU!


    THE WHOLE ALBANIA DOESN'T REVOLVE AROUND YOUR LIFE!

    By the way in Muslim Saudi Arabia, atheists and agnostics are beheaded...Thats also a fact too... Just letting you know about Sharia law.
     
  11. frozy

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    dude, you gotta cut off caffeine :omg:

    http://www.albaglobal.com/modules.php?name=Albania&pa=showpage&pid=7
     
  12. AGS

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    By the way , the link you provided for your premise exactly took its source from CIA world Fact book as STATING 70% OF ALBANIANS ARE MUSLIMS, 20% ARE ORTHODOX and only 10% ARE ROMAN CATHOLIC...

    AND TO TOP IT OFF...ALBANIA IS THE ONLY EUROPEAN COUNTRY TO JOIN THE ISLAMIC COOPERATIVE UNION ORGANIZATION...in 1992...

    SO Can you explain to me those 2 premises instead of spinning the information by saying some US govt source telling they are atheists and agnostics...


    WHY DID ALBANIA JOIN THE ISLAMIC COOPERATIVE UNION IN 1992 ? IF ITS AGNOSTIC OR ATHEIST?????
     
  13. frozy

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    Would you refuse to join cooperate union with union whose members are UAE;SAUDI ARABIA and QATAR?! :) even US wouldn't do that xD if that union benefits a country on monetary values why the heck would that country refuse to do so? would you explain me that?! why would they refuse investments on hospitals and other public services from countries which mainly offer them? also as far as i can see some members are 'not necessarily Muslim majority countries.' (wikipedia) -Uganda, Cameroon,Benin,Mozambique, etc. Including RUSSIA as observer state.Thailand (where Muslims are second largest population with 4.6% followers:mrgreen:), and Central African Republic whose 10% of population is Muslim :bored: so why the hell wouldn't Albania with 70% of Muslims on paper join that union? btw Bosnia is observer as well :mrgreen:
     
  14. Mishko

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    Using Bosnia as a self gain how exactly? By using Srebenrica as an example does not mean I was saying Albanians were the victims but simply using examples. Bosnia and Kosovo were both apart of the Yugoslav wars so I don't see the problem. It's not illegal to use outside information (Even in Saudi Arabia). Like I said, out of my friends in family I only know a few Muslims and real life is much more convincing then polls from the CIA. I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that you are not fond of me, Albanians or Muslims. I know Albania doesn't revolve around my life. I never said I knew Every Albanian that ever existed but I don't think you would know if Albanians are religious or you obviously don't like us or don't know any.
     
  15. Mishko

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    Frozy, once again, you completely explain my point. Thank you.
     
  16. Mishko

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    They can do whatever they want. I have my peace of mind.
     
  17. AGS

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    Yea I know and I see Russia as an observer state because of their islamic population and also their intelligence agencies researching muslim countries for their security report..

    The International Cooperative Muslim Union IS NOT A ORGANIZATION CENTERING ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT like OPEC or possibly the arab league of nations BUT AN ORGANIZATION THAT VALUES A RELIGIOUS AFFILIATION.
     
  18. AGS

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    Well you are just basing your premises on your personal biaseness from your personal experience which doesn't really explain the atmosphere in albania.

    As for the CIA statistics, they give the numbers as 70% muslims, 20% orthodox, and 10% roman catholics..

    Many people use this information when they trade commodities with other countries and businesses need to know the demographics so they can serve the needs of the populace and prosper in profit. So I would take those numbers very seriously...

    And using srebrenica as an example doesn't even have any correlations with albanians as an analogy. Did Milosevic specifically make an ULTIMATUM in Srebrenica declaring Albanians as a threat and victimized them in the killing fields?

    No ..Not really... If you are using Srebrenica as an example to draw emotional sympathy and outcry from other people to draw other people into Albanian political intervention. I see it as PROPAGANDA...because you only focus on a political agenda and neglect the victimization done in the srebrenica genocide....
     
  19. frozy

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    'The organisation attempts to be the collective voice of the Muslim world (Ummah) and attempts to safeguard the interests and ensure the progress and well-being of Muslims.'- i think that progress and well being refers to wealth at first place and therefore gathers countries with Muslim population. :bored:
     
  20. Mishko

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    Common Sense is knowledge by instinct of logic.
    Do you find it the least bit odd, that this poll says that Albania is 100% religious? That this previously Atheist Country has suddenly turned to religion? That not even 1% is Atheist/Agnostic? Are simply choosing not to care because you want to be right?
    I am not drawing any sympathy from the Bosnian massacres. We were discussing Milosevic and I gave an example of him doing unspeakable things to the Bosniaks. Do not put false words in my mouth about Albanians being victims of Srebenrica. That is extreme propaganda. A word you don't seem to understand. I used Srebenrica to back my argument about Milosevic. I never said anything once about Albanians in Srebenrica. I lose my patience with liers.
     
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    Nov 16, 2011
    "At present Russia is preparing to provide major humanitarian assistance to the Serbs in Kosovo, mainly food and medical supplies. The first airplane, an Il-76 of Emercom, with 35 metric tons of food supplies will arrive on November 17 in the Serbian city of Nic, which is 100 km from the border of Kosovo, an embassy representative said. The supplies will then be delivered to Kosovo by the Serbian Red Cross. More information on additional flights with humanitarian aid will be made known later."
    http://www.russkiymir.ru/russkiymir/en/news/common/news4933.html
     
  22. LenaSrb

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    Russia to defend Serb rights everywhere, Lavrov​

    11/17/2011 2:19:00 PM

    MOSCOW - Russia's Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said Tuesday he understands the motives of Kosovo Serbs who applied for Russian citizenship, adding that Russia will defend the rights of Serbs wherever they live, taking into account all options stemming from international and Russian law.

    The Kosovo Serbs are forced to follow the dictate from Pristina, Lavrov said.
    We are very familiar with their demands. We are obliged to act taking into account several factors. Russia has a citizenship law which regulates how people from other countries can acquire citizenship, Lavrov said, according to the Itar-Tass news agency.

    He pointed out official Moscow understands perfectly the motives of Kosovo Serbs who are in a desperate situation in which, despite UN Security Council Resolution 1244, they are forced to follow the dictate of Pristina, which wants to deprive them of the right to self-government, with the direct support of NATO and EULEX.

    Lavrov said NATO and EULEX are violating the UN mandate which obligates them to neutrality regarding Kosovo's status, adding Russia is strongly opposed to this.

    We intend to defend the rights of Serbs wherever they live, taking into account all options stemming from international and Russian law, Lavrov pointed out.


    He said this is the response to a collective request of around 20,000 Serb IDPs from Kosovo who applied for Russian citizenship at the Embassy in Belgrade.
    http://www.tanjug.rs/news/24636/russia-to-defend-serb-rights-everywhere--lavrov.htm



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  23. LenaSrb

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    If I start posting for real, as I used to, you and others who came to one political forum believing in the kids stories, wouldn't like it.
    Just a typical terrorist attacks committed by Albanians from Kosovo and Metohija against civilians.

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    On 16 February 2001, a bus carrying Serb civilians on a "commemoration mission" to family graves in Albanian-controlled territory was destroyed by a roadside bomb at a spot near Podujevo, en route to Gracanica. It was one in a convoy of five buses carrying 250 people from the city of Niš, escorted by armoured personnel carriers from the Swedish contingent of the KFOR peacekeeping force. According to KFOR's regional commander, the bomb comprised between 100-200 lb of high explosive, detonated using a command wire.

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    UNHCR bus carrying Serbs which the Albanian terrorists committed the attacks in February 2000, with the rocket bomb.
     
  24. LenaSrb

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    Usually, others will treat you the same way you treat them. It takes an enormous effort, when insults are constant as seen here and when I need to read all these nonsenses (especially when I prove that specific 'posters' are lying and they just proceed without debate as nothing happened with a new lye/day) to stay calm.
    I understand what you're trying to tell me and I'm not denying existence of Catholic and Orthodox Albanians; however, I was pointing out to Albanians who reside in our Southern Province of Kosovo and Metohija. What's the reason Catholic Albanians are moving from over there?

    Without even going into every detail and debating your words I've better question;What is success to you, Mishko?Enlargement of the landmass or economic stability? If your people don't change mentality you'll fail in both.
    Yes, the percentage of the religious believers went up since then. 1964. was time when socialism or as some call it communism in Ex YU was in a full swing.
     
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    That's why we, poor, blind people have you on this board ;).
     

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