Are Palestinians an 'invented' people?

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  1. sherp

    sherp New Member

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    WHAT?????????? The Israeli's beat the Arabs to many times to count.
     
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    So I guess that the area referred to as Palastine is kinda like the US of A in that anyone who happened to move there are called Americans regardless of religion, race or country of origin. Still, if we eventually get conquered by the influx of illegals from down south, do we get to just come back and take our country back... or is that only allowed by those native Americans who were here even before us? Then again, I think there were some Neanderthals or their evolutionary precursers who beat them to America too?

    In the end, the folks called Americans are those who live there at the time of the calling... and right now, it looks like there is a mix of folks living in Palestine from all over the region.. much like American and much like the Palestine of old.
     
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    Well, yes.

    When people are allowed to live on their own land in their own ancestral homes they do not NEED to refer to themselves as "Palestinians", or "Brooklynites", or "Californians".

    It is only when they are THROWN OUT and are away from home as REFUGEES when they need to campaign to try to get their stolen homes, farms and businesses returned to them!
     
  4. The Judge

    The Judge New Member Past Donor

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    Such a claim is no different from claiming that Israelis don't exist. Gingrich just wants to prove that some of the republican party is amazingly stupid and heavily bigoted.
     
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    Just give them another couple of weeks.
    He's more toxic than Cain, Perry, Trump and Bachmann combined, and they'll soon catch on.
    The way it's going, they may get around to Palin again, since she seems almost sane compared to the gaggle of embarrassing clowns that we have seen come and go since she was their darling.
    The American public has been watching the freak show that is the repub potus contest and they have lost faith that the repubs are in any way ready for prime time in 2012.
     
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    LOLOL.. You are probably right on point, but another round of Palin???:omg:
     
  7. snakestretcher

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    What an absurd assertion. There is no 'god' other than the mythical being man invented to make himself feel better. There are no 'chosen people' either-just a bunch of Zionist crooks who usurped the writings of an ancient book for political ends.
     
  8. Ostap Bender

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    The country of Palestine was given Jews by God, the gangs of Arabs invaded the Holy Country and imposed the Religion of Peace to native people. After 1947 they used birth and immigration Jihad against Jews, the best solution would be if all Arabs leave the Country of Jews and go to Saudi Arabia, Kuwait etc. Also, most of Arabs are illegal aliens in Palestine, Period!
     
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    The Palestinians have been in Palestine which included Jordan, Israel, Lebanon and parts of Syria for between 6,000 and 8,000 years..

    And Arabs existed for thousands and thousands of years before Islam.
     
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    That's correect .. until middle of the last century.. all those people lived in the Syrian province of Palestine.
     
  11. James Cessna

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    You are very corect, Ostap Bender!

    Most Palestinian leaders agree the "Palestinians" are actually the descendants of a mixed populace of local inhabitants together with numerous other groups of Muslims brought to Palestine from Bosnia, the Balkans, and the Caucasus by the Turks, and from the Sudan, Egypt, Syria, and Lebanon by the British. Their stated goals are to reclaim a right to all of Palestine, and then when this objective is accomplished to unite Palestine and Jordan.

    Zuheir Mohsen (Palestinian leader, PLO, 1971-79): “The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct Palestinian people to oppose Zionism.”

    “For tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state with defined borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa, while as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem. However, the moment we reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will not wait even a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan.”
     
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    You wrote...

    In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese..”

    That's correct .. until middle of the last century.. all those people lived in the Syrian province of Palestine. They are all related.. they are family.
     
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    Thanks James, for me Palestine is clearly a Country which had been given to Jews by God, the gangs of Arab invaders many thousands years tried to steal Palestine by its owners - Jews.

    Moreover we have our Churches in Israel, Arabs already began to destroy them, only Jews can protect Christianity in Israel, therefore the entirely Christian World must help Jews to defend their country against Palestinian bandits.

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    Guess you didn't know that the Muslims honor all the patriarchs of the old testament.. That's why they protected the Christian and Jewish hol places for the past 1300 years.

    The Palestinians aren't "bandits".. they have lived in Palestine for thousands of years.
     
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    LOL Still coming up short of facts I see Margot.

    Do you even know Margot why the Mosque itself looks EXACTLY like a Christian Orthodox church without the cross on top? You claim to be the historian, why is that? Dazzle us with your brilliance. Here is your chance. Answer the question.

    Are these the examples of Muslims protecting churches?

    Egyptian Muslims Burn Coptic Church in Aswan Province

    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/148397#.TuTcAlaXfsw

    Indonesia: 1000 Muslims Burn Down Two Churches

    http://www.sodahead.com/united-stat...lims-burn-down-two-churches/question-2203609/

    Muslim Rioters Burn Down Churches in Saki

    http://www.compassdirect.org/english/country/nigeria/2000/newsarticle_0930.html

    Muslim Mob Burns Down Church Targeted By Police In Ethiopia

    http://www.persecution.org/2011/12/11/muslim-mob-burns-down-church-targeted-by-police-in-ethiopia/


    And this is a drop in the bucket of the examples I can provide. As usual Margot is all talk and once again exposed for her false claims when facts are brought up.
     
  16. Scare Bear

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    The "Palestinians" were invented by those who wish to destroy the jews and it would not surprise me if they were originally a creation of the nazis or prehaps the people who created the nazis. Regardless, they are born of evil and they or their allies must not be allowed to threaten the great nation of Israel whose welfare and survival is more important than any other nation on earth.
     
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    I have visited the Al Aksa Mosque several times .. Its quite beautiful.

    It was built on the city dump if you recall.. The site was abandoned in 70 AD.. The Muslims built their mosque to honor the God of Abraham in the 7th century.
     
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    That's comical.. They have been in Palestine since the time of Abraham.. Remember, Abraham had an Arab wife named Keturah and had six sons with her.

    Nazis indeed.. how stupid.
     
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    Firstly where can I read in the Holy Bible that God gave Palestine to Muslims?

    Secondly so-called "Palestinians" are bandits, they kill non-stop Jews by rockets and terror attacks.
     
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    There were no Muslims when the Bible was written, but there were lots of Arabs in Syria-Palestine and the Levant.

    Remember, Abraham has six sons by his Arab wife Keturah.


    If you check the facts... the kill ratio of Jews to Arabs.. is about Arabs 30 dead for every European Jew killed.
     
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    Absolutely!

    By the way, I repect every religion, and I respect and recognize the right of the Jewish people to Israel. but I also believe in the right of Palestinians to hold on to their own land.

    And, the fact that the determination that the Jewish people is the "chosen people" by God rests uniquely on the JEWISH people stating that concept. the JEWISH people wrote the Bible, and, evenif the Bible is inspired by God, it is still the interpretation of God's intent made by the Jewish.
     
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    That's a Reason for our Support the State of Israel! We all know that Muslims will immediately destroy all our churches if they win in Israel.
     
  23. Scare Bear

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    I said or those who created the nazis indicating the satan spawn behind this latest attack on the jewish people is older than that event in history. Satan is behind all anti-jewish organisations and ideologies whether it be current or historical, from ancient Egpyt to modern day.
     
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    Whoa whoa whoa....are we now taking the Bible as historical fact?


    ROFL....do you know how many times that book has been re-written and translated?

    Holy (*)(*)(*)(*)...no wonder this argument never goes anywhere....we are using fairy tales as historical fact.

    I mean it took a group of MEN to meet up and decide as to whether Jesus was even divine or not.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Council_of_Nicaea

    How can you guys take this (*)(*)(*)(*) serious?
     
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    Yes.. Its interesting that the seed of Abraham were the "chosen" and then the subsequent writing narrowed the field.. So that the sons of Abraham by Hagar and Keturah are eliminated... yet ALL were circumcised according to the Covenant.

    Its the complete opposite in Islam.. A Muslim man can't discard the rights of any of his children.
     
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