‘Kiev has turned to terrorism’: Putin on foiled sabotage plot in Crimea

Time for a little perspective...

https://www.rt.com/news/355419-putin-crimea-terrorism-kiev

‘Kiev has turned to terrorism’: Putin on foiled sabotage plot in Crimea
Published time: 10 Aug, 2016 15:27
Edited time: 10 Aug, 2016 16:21

Kiev has turned to the “practice of terrorism” instead of trying to peacefully resolve Ukraine’s crisis, Russian President Vladimir Putin said in commenting on an FSB report that it had foiled terrorist attacks in Crimea plotted by Ukrainian intelligence.

Ukraine is “playing a dangerous game,” the Russian leader said when talking to reporters on Wednesday, while calling Kiev’s actions “stupid and criminal.”

Moscow cannot turn a blind eye to the deaths of its servicemen who were killed during special operations to prevent terrorist attacks in Crimea, Putin said.

Given that the Main Directorate of Intelligence of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine (HUR MOU) was allegedly behind the thwarted terrorist attacks in Crimea, it is “pointless” to meet with Ukraine’s current authorities to seek a solution to the country’s crisis, Putin said.

The leaders of Russia, Ukraine, France, and Germany were to meet in the so-called “Normandy format” to discuss the peace process in Ukraine on the sidelines of the upcoming G20 in China.

However, Kiev has demonstrated that it’s not interested in peaceful negotiations, the Russian president told reporters, adding that he would like to address the matter with Moscow’s American and European partners as well.

“I think it’s obvious that Kiev’s current authorities are not seeking for ways to solve problems through negotiations, but have turned to terrorism,” Putin said, adding that this new development is rather alarming.  

Russia's Federal Security Service (FSB) announced on Wednesday it had discovered a group of infiltrators in Crimea close to the Ukrainian border. Explosive devices and ammunition used by the Ukrainian Army’s special forces were discovered at the scene, while more attempts by Ukrainian raiding and terrorist groups to break through had been prevented by Russian forces this week, the FSB said.

Kiev refuted the FSB report of a foiled terrorist plot, and instead accused Moscow of provocation.

 

Total garbage...it's a bit rich and disingenuous to be calling someone else a terrorist when you are the main exporter...false flag for a further land grab is all it is..they should've killed a few more mongols..make it worth a while..Donbass no different..

 

Putin said? Has anyone noticed how Vlad the Invader almost never lies when he keeps his mouth shut. It's like magic, the moment he stops talking, deceit & dishonesty can no longer be detected. If he really wanted to impress the world, he would go into hiding and never come out.

 

What is important? First, the Normandy format is suspended and may be is over. Second, the Ukraine authorities are not "partners" any more, but "those who seized power in Kiev and who continue to hold it and to rob their own people in order to remain in power as long as they can", or, in other words, illegitimate usurpers.

 

What does this mean?

"Moscow cannot turn a blind eye to the deaths of its servicemen who were killed during special operations to prevent terrorist attacks in Crimea, Putin said."

 

I don't know.

But Putin also said "the head of the Lugansk People’s Republic" and he didn't add any "self-proclaimed".

 

Putin is generally very careful in choosing his words. There is no bluster with him.

 

Sounds like he wants to attack Ukraine to me


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And give a chance to Killary? No, that won't happen.

 

I suppose ukraine would have to send in little green men without insignias, whilst denying their existance, in order to qualify as "legitimate" according to russian standards.

 

Or justify a "special comando" actions there, yep he's cooking something, he secured Syria front with Turkey so its time to make a few steps and wait for the West to come pleading, I hope he "saved game" before thou

 

Ukraine has gotten their shiet together though. back when russia took crimea, the ukrainian military was a complete mess, but they've gotten much better now. Russia can't just roll into the rest of the ukraine as they did years ago. that's what i've heard atleast.

 

yes, he said.

any problems with that?

you seem to be more credulous when the CIA speaks.

 

You are joking correct? They would be utterly crushed in a direct war with Russia.

 

There is a direct war..withe the cultural retards in Donbass by the way..last I read I heard several thousand Muscovites were killed..I'm actually looking forward to a high body count...according to the Muscovites massive losses are acceptable as long ultimate objectives are achieved..not much has changed since 1943.

 

Clearly a Russian false flag attack.

 

Yes, but russia is probably not going to launch an open war. They havent yet. They are still pretending as if its just rebels fighting. But we all know its russian army too. But point is, ukraine is much stronger and prepared today. Russia would not be able to launch suprise attacks a la crimea again

 

If there would be there would be a heavy insurgency..something that of us incursion into Iraq back in 2003 onwards. How many us soldiers killed?? 5000+..but to the Russians that's a small number...massive losses are acceptable as long as ultimate objectives are achieved!

 

Wait, that means, if Russians can't defeat bunch of peasants with soviet era arms, that means they are not on par even with demilitarized Europe. Why placing garrisons on border with Russia then? Baltic state militia can easily withstand siege, in case of crisis, until main NATO forces will be transported...

 

and? The ukrainians would be the ones doing the fighting, and they're willing to suffer many casualties too. We'd just be supplying them with all they need to make the war as costly as possible for Russia.

Russia is only using a small part of their military might to attack ukraine, because they want to pretend it's rebels. russia would win over ukraine in a full out war, of course.

but it is true.. russian military isn't in top shape either. There's still the chronic corruption that affects all things russian, and they're still in the middle of a rearmament and reorganisation. I have heard -from seminars by nato and EU officials- that the russians might initially have planned a full scale invasion of ukraine, i.e. tanks rolling into kiev. But this was abandoned when the ukrainians had been suprisingly successful and quick at improving their military capabilities.

 

The new Ukrainian army consists of Arab (probably terrorists) and Polish mercenaries. The Ukrainian men have all left for Russia because they didn't want to become cannon fodder for Poroshenko. The last time he was giving the conscripts two weeks of training, and if they wanted protective gear they had to pay for it. Most of the deaths were from friendly fire, since they didn't know how to use the guns given them ... or at least they didn't know how in the Debaltsevo cauldron where thousands died.

To make sure the Ukrainians wouldn't surrender to the Donbas militia at the time so they could eat and survive, he placed some 'nationalists' from the former Polish areas of Ukraine in the rear to shoot any deserters. It was these nationalists from Galatia who were being trained by Americans for six months and given protective gear.. not the rest who didn't want to fight for the Washington and neo con controlled junta.

 

Where are you getting this information? Can you please cite me a credible source on how you obtained such in-depth knowledge regarding the current Ukrainian Army and terrorists?

 

Obviously Crimea style operation is very hard to pull off without much blood. If you mean a Proxy war, then it is in Russian interests not to have a clear win. Muddy waters is far better for their geo political ambitions.

 

voices in her head...

Why though? What would they gain by a long civil war? Ukraine isn't a nato or eu country remember, it doesn't affect us much. I think it's just the opposite. Russia want to end the conflict, so they can move on and make trouble elsewhere. It is in our (the west) to prolong the ukrainian conflict, because it ties up russian resources, of which there are increasingly few. Russia is basically stuck in ukraine, slowly bleeding. it's a small wound of course.

 

You clearly misread the situation, Russia support of the rebels is far less expensive then Ukraines military response to it. Secondly a Ukraine in midst of conflict will never join NATO, and will have hard time joining the EU. Thirdly this conflict puts political pressure on the Ukranian government and everyday they do not stop the rebellion is another day they lose support, fifth this war is popular in Russia and helps Putin politically.