‘Kiev has turned to terrorism’: Putin on foiled sabotage plot in Crimea

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  1. Eadora

    Eadora Well-Known Member

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    A nobody engaging in Official Declarations ! :roflol:
    Being declared Insane by a blithering NutCase
    Who proves himself time & time again to be a Puppet to US/NATO Propaganda

    I suggest you
    Tighten your strings "Mr Swedish Guy" they seem to be becoming a bit loose :roll:
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    I am sure Jeannette will enjoy your Official Declaration as a neatly inverted Compliment :mrgreen:
     
  2. Mr. Swedish Guy

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    oh god you're killing me! :roflol:
     
  3. Eadora

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    I sincerely RESPECT your sense of Humor
    If you ever get to Poke me in the Eye !
    I will promise to laugh along with you just as hard ! :banana:
     
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    As usual, there is no proof.
     
  5. Baff

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    Funny, because your people weren't saying that at the time. Your people were begging our men to bring you more.
    And they did. And a great many of them died trying.

    Your country honoured them before my own did.
    It's a pity you don't. I still will however. They died so that you might live.

    [video=youtube;NSvUhq7gXbI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSvUhq7gXbI[/video]
     
  6. bidjo

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    No need to overdramatize this. Lend Lease is not a gift. The US government sold resources to both sides and get benefit with this.
    http://www.globalresearch.ca/history-of-world-war-ii-americas-was-providing-military-aid-to-the-ussr-while-also-supporting-nazi-germany/5449378
     
  7. El Kabosh

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    Agreed.........!

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    Citizen America-Haters, usually American by birth, can be often found on the Internet message boards where they openly express their unrepentant hatred for America by disparaging the government, the military, capitalism, wealth, both major political parties (DEMS & GOP), foreign policy, the private sector....even the founding fathers. They also express sympathy for this nation's enemies and gleefully applaud every American reversal.
     
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    The Russian government are ingrates....the US saved their Communist asses in WW2, otherwise they would be speaking German right now!
     
  9. zoom_copter66

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    Funny though..many Russians fought for Nazis..when I suggest googling general vlasov..no one seems to reply back confirming or denying..oh I forgot according to people like Jeannette, Google is propaganda..and stormfront is accurate reporting!

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    Like I say Google it..that's what all people tell me..I do have access to a link but you'll just indicate it's western propaganda..so why bother!
     
  10. bidjo

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    Andrey Vlasov (1 of September (14 September) in 1901, the village Lomakin, Nizhny Novgorod province, Russian Empire - August 1, 1946, Moscow, USSR) - Soviet military leader, a member of the Battle of Moscow. He commanded the 2nd Shock Army, in the course of Luban offensive in 1942 was in the German captivity, and went to working with the leadership of the Third Reich against the political system of the USSR, becoming the head of the military organization of the Soviet prisoners of war and immigrants - Russian Liberation Army (ROA ). Chief Russian liberation movement , the chairman of the Presidium of the Russian Peoples Liberation Committee (1944-1945), Chief of the Liberation Army (28 January - 12 May 1945). In 1945, captured by the Red Army in 1946, convicted on charges of treason, deprived of military rank, state awards and hanged.
    The United States never had a traitor?
     
  11. Baff

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    I am not from the US nor the people who ran the Atlantic convoys nor was the equipment sent to you by my people.

    The Americans shipped to you through Iran.

    Nothing to over-dramatise.

    Clearly you are not of the same stock as your forefathers or mine.
    I will not advocate to ally with such as you. Only those who know honour.

    If you do not respect their sacrifice, you will not reciprocate. Pointless to be your friend at all.
     
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    You're right ..not a gift..US tried to point that out and suggested it be paid back..I do recall reading a quote from a Nikita Khrushchev stating as such..."we paid it though...in blood that is"..he had a point, but not exactly how it's done from a business standpoint.
     
  13. sharik

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    'begging'? sounds humiliating & insulting doesn't it?.. it is unlikely such a wording could appear out of nowhere but history fiction books made to order by the Western propaganda to fuel anti-Russian sentiment in attempt to exaggerate the West Allies role, which in fact was minimal. Russia, if anything, is not a country that would 'beg' anyone, rather give orders; so you best think twice before say nonsense like 'you people begged' etc.
     
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    You are greatly exaggerating, Mr.Baff.

    There was no "sacrifice" on the part of Britain and America. When they helped Russia, they saved their asses.
    If Hitler had won Russia, Japan would have won America . Alliance Germany-Italy-Japan + Romania, Hungary ....Spain

    If Russia hadn't won, the Germans would have bowed All .

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    Maybe I have to respect the "sacrifice" of those who supplied oil for Nazi Germany? If the US government does not sponsored the Nazis this war would not be at all.

    You're not tired of lying?
    "pre Lend-lease" 22 June 1941 to 30 September 1941 (paid for in gold and other minerals)
    While repayment of the interest-free loans was required after the end of the war under the act, in practice the U.S. did not expect to be repaid by the USSR after the war. The U.S. received $2M in reverse Lend-Lease from the USSR. This was mostly in the form of landing, servicing, and refueling of transport aircraft; some industrial machinery and rare minerals were sent to the U.S. The U.S. asked for $1.3B at the cessation of hostilities to settle the debt, but was only offered $170M by the USSR. The dispute remained unresolved until 1972, when the U.S. accepted an offer from the USSR to repay $722M linked to grain shipments from the U.S., with the remainder being written off. During the war the USSR provided an unknown number of shipments of rare minerals to the US Treasury as a form of cashless repayment of Lend-Lease. This was agreed before the signing of the first protocol on 1 October 1941 and extension of credit. Some of these shipments were intercepted by the Germans. In May 1942, HMS Edinburgh was sunk while carrying 4.5 tonnes of Soviet gold intended for the U.S. Treasury. This gold was salvaged in 1981 and 1986. In June 1942, SS Port Nicholson was sunk en route from Halifax, Canada to New York, allegedly with Soviet platinum, gold, and industrial diamonds aboard.
     
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    Sorry if getting invaded and put to the sword by the million was a humiliating experience for you.
    Begging.
    "Help us we are dying".

    Swallow your stupid arsed pride and accept it. Pride comes before a fall.

    You ordered us to deliver you 2,000 tanks to the battle of Moscow?
    Did you now.

    And I don't have to think twice. Your pathetic threats don't scare me. (*)(*)(*)(*) with us and we will bury the lot of you.
    The Germans aren't the only army to have made it to Moscow. It will take us no longer than 4 minutes to wipe out you all.

    Friend or enemy mate. Any way you like it.
    If you want our help in Ukraine, we'll show up. But raise your fist to me, and I'll knock your teeth out.


    So here is how it's going to be. If you decide Ukraine needs to be invaded and pacified. We will join in.
    You make that decision, and then we will all rush in and grab what we can. You follow your orders, We follow ours.
    Separate chain of command.

    You take the East, we take the West.
    Yugoslavia style. Those who fear us to be protected by you. Those who fear you to be protected by us. And we will keep a lid on it together. As allies or as enemies. Whatever you prefer. The results will be the same if you want to live and we do too.
     
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    you didn't get the point... 'humiliating' being only your local media use of the word 'begging' but not
    what happened really, so your attempts at gloating have failed miserably.

    and the USSR did help you Brits, saved you from Hitler.

    no, of course, because the USSR had its own tanks - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-34#Mass_production - see the production numbers?
     
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    Saved us from Hitler?
    No mate.
    You had a peace accord with Hitler, left him free to invade us.
    We stopped him. You weren't involved.

    I agree you had your own tanks.
    And ten times as many of them as you had ours.

    But ours were there. We helped you when your back was to the wall, when your tank factories were all under siege....
    and when our back was to the wall from the same enemy, you stood by and did nothing. That is how you helped us.

    If you made all these great tanks, why did you not send us any?
    Hmm?
    Where were the Russian built aircraft at the Battle of Britain? Where were the Russian pilots?
    Ours where there with you at Moscow. Yours were not here with us at London.

    That is the help you provided us. None. Nada. Zero.
    You only ever helped yourselves.

    And with hindsight, perhaps we could have destroyed Germany without you. Just as we did Japan.
    Perhaps the same is true of you too. Who knows? But we fought together as allies once.
    Honour it. If you are man of honour.


    I am not gloating mate. You begged us.
    Just as we begged you.
    Just as we begged the Americans.

    You weren't the only ones who needed help.
     
  19. Russian Donbass

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    Ukraine was a the self-proclaimed, and even the US were self-proclaimed.

    Donbass Russian built, and he returns to Russia, definitely.
     

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