‘Put Down Like the Dogs They Are!’: School Psychologist

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  1. GeddonM3

    GeddonM3 Well-Known Member

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    lol the Spanish Mafia, if there is one, is run by the Spaniards, if they have the balls.

    the MEXICAN MAFIA, is run by MEXICANS.

    so once again dip(*)(*)(*)(*), you made the claim on how you spaniards run (*)(*)(*)(*), so you are the one who needs to provide names and such. you made the claim first, you prove it, dont try to swing your bull(*)(*)(*)(*) on me like im the one who made it up.

    so please dude, either you provide facts behind the claims that you alone made or shut the hell up. its simple.
     
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    Joaquin Guzman Loera.

    Good night and sweet dreams my saxon loser.
     
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    Thats a spanish first name, a spanish second name and a spanish last name. Game over, you lose.
     
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    um dude, unless you have very bad reading comprehension Guzman is MEXICAN, not a spaniard. born and raised in Mexico dude, he runs a mexican cartel.

    just face it bro, this Spaniard mafia crap you dreamed up is nothing but bull(*)(*)(*)(*). go pretend the spaniards beat Hitler or something.
     
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    As I thought, this is boys v men. This convo is finished.
     
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    yeah i know the convo is finished, because you cant back up your made up story about some non existing spaniard mafia lol. so yes, your little boy argument cant stand up in a debate with a man. good riddance liar, go make up stories to 3rd graders that might believe it.
     
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    One day a mouse was in search of food in the forest. While searching it came near the den of a lion and smelt something very good. Guided by the smell, it went inside the den and found several pieces of meat of an animal that was eaten by the lion. The mouse ate quite a few pieces. Seeing the many pieces that are left over there, it has decided to stay on so that it can eat it in the night also. Having eaten so much meat it was fast asleep within minutes.

    It has become dark and the Lion returned to its den. Since it was dark it could not see the mouse sleeping on the floor. The Lion had brought with it a piece of a lamb and ate it fully, leaving the bones aside.

    The Lion after sometime had slept off and started snoring loudly. The lion’s snoring woke up the mouse. The mouse ran helter-skelter and bumped on the lion’s leg. The mouse felt the fur on the leg smooth and started exploring it. As it reached the ear of the lion, the lion got disturbed and woke up with a sudden jerk that made the mouse slip down. Who is here? – the lion roared. The little mouse with a feeble voice replied, “ I am a mouse here”. How dare you disturb my sleep and where are you? – again shouted the lion.

    I am sorry and I am here – said the mouse. The Lion lit a lamp and searched for the mouse. It found the den very clean with no pieces of meat and bones and finally it saw a mouse in a corner of its den shivering with fear. The mouse looked pretty. The lion thought for a while. It thought that since the mouse was here its den is kept clean otherwise it would be stinking with meat pieces and bones all around. Why not allow this mouse to be here so that it keeps the den clean by eating away the bones and leftover meat – thus the lion thought about.

    Ok tell me why did to enter my den? – The lion continued its question.

    The mouse replied with folded hands: I was in search of food and the smell of the bones and meat pieces lead me to your den. I am sorry, I shall leave now, please allow me go”.

    Ok, if you want to stay here you can do so, but you shall not disturb my sleep.

    The fear of the mouse did not reduce. So it has repeated:” Please allow me go”.

    Seeing the mouse in that fearful condition, the lion felt sorry for it and said in a very soft tone: Oh little mouse do not get frightened. Just listen to me carefully. I hunt everyday and bring the carcass of some animal. I do not eat it fully. You are a small animal and hence you can easily eat the leftovers and be happy. If you like eating like this without searching for food, you can stay here.

    The mouse was surprised and with happiness it said “ Yes Mr. Lion, I shall stay in the den” One more condition: Said the lion.

    You must keep the den clean by eating all the leftover pieces of meat and bones. If you can not eat fully, you shall carry them away and keep the den clean.

    OK Mr. Lion said the mouse.

    OK now you sleep in that corner and I shall sleep here in the middle of the den: saying this the lion went to sleep.

    Both the lion and the mouse were fast asleep. The mouse has a habit of rolling freely on the floor while sleeping. So, by midnight the mouse came nearer to the lion and started feeling its warmth and went further deep into the sleep. In the sleep it started comforting itself by placing itself in the fold of the lion’s leg.

    The lion too felt it OK and adjusted its leg to allow the mouse to sleep. The early rays of the sun passing through the crack in the den fell on the lion’s eyes and made it wake up. As it opened its eyes, it found the mouse sleeping innocently well on its leg.

    The lion watched the mouse for sometime and later it woke up the mouse gently with its paw. The mouse woke up and looked straight into the face of the lion that appeared so big as it was very close. It cried loudly and tried to jump out but prevented gently by the lion.

    Do be frightened, you have slept on my leg and hence I woke you up: said the lion. Looking straight into the eyes of the lion the mouse broke into peels of laughter. Seeing mouse the lion too started laughing.
     
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    awwww is that the story your mommy reads you before she tucks you in????

    was she also the one who told you the fairy tale about the Spaniard Mafia ????
     
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    THE cartel;

    drug_diary_0511.jpg

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    Hmmm, do they look native american?!?! Or lets be real, they are europeans.
     
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    Lets be real here, they are identical to any spaniard you can think of, a million miles away from native americans.
     
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    really, so whats their names???
     
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    o and im still wanting to see this family crest you speak of , this should be interesting.
     
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    seriously dude, just face it. there is no Spaniard cartel, all Mexican cartel leaders were born and raised in Mexico. Spain or europe has nothing to do with their operations.

    get over it man, you made up a story to make you feel like you are connected to gangsters or something to make yourself feel hard.

    show me a Spaniard, a person born and raised in Spain that heads the mexican drug cartels. please show me.
     
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    How old are you, seriously?
     
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    You still have yet to show any proof that Spanish people run the Mexican Cartels. I mean, if it was so obvious as you seem to make it out to be, then there would be lots of articles and other information on the topic for you to link.

    I will wait.
     
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    Guy, this is not difficult to fathom. Look beyond the nationality. These guys are not native americas, native americans have way different features, broad nose, very tanned and buddha eyes. These guys, the ones in the pics are ethnically [basque in Guzmans case] europeans, narrow noses, wide eyes, pale skin. They are not native americans. This is made clearer when you look at the names. All of spanish descent.
     
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    Indeed maybe they do look odd, but so what?

    Saul Alvarez looks as Irish as they come, but he is 100% Mexican. I had my friend show me proof because I didn't believe him at first...

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    See what I am getting at?
     
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    His nationality is mexican, of course. That is a simple point.
     
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    It was a brutal massacre even by the gruesome standards of Mexico’s drug war: 72 migrant workers gunned down by the “Zetas” – arguably the country’s most violent cartel – and left rotting in a pile outside a ranch in Tamaulipas state near the US border in late August.
    The Zetas have a fearsome reputation, but the real surprise comes not in their ruthless use of violence, but in the origins of where they learned the tricks of their bloody trade.
    Some of the cartel’s initial members were elite Mexican troops, trained in the early 1990s by America’s 7th Special Forces Group or “snake eaters” at Ft. Bragg, North Carolina, a former US special operations commander has told Al Jazeera.
    “They were given map reading courses, communications, standard special forces training, light to heavy weapons, machine guns and automatic weapons,” says Craig Deare, the former special forces commander who is now a professor at the US National Defence University.
    “I had some visibility on what was happening, because this [issue] was related to things I was doing in the Pentagon in the 1990s,” Deare, who also served as country director in the office of the US Secretary of Defence, says.
    The Mexican personnel who received US training and later formed the Zetas came from the Airmobile Special Forces Group (GAFE), which is considered an elite division of the Mexican military.

    Their US training was designed to prepare them for counter-insurgency and, ironically, counter-narcotics operations, although Deare says they were not taught the most advanced commando techniques available at Ft. Bragg.
    Military forces from around the world train at Ft. Bragg, so there is nothing unique about Mexican operatives learning counter-insurgency tactics at the facility. However, critics say the specific skills learned by the Zetas primed them for careers as contract killers and drug dealers.
    “The Zetas definitely have the reputation of being the most dangerous, the most vicious, the most renegade of the cartels,” says Kristen Bricker, a Mexico-based research associate with the North American Congress on Latin America (NACLA).
    About 29,000 people have died since Felipe Calderon, Mexico’s president, declared war on the drug cartels in 2006.
    Extreme violence
    The group has mounted the severed heads of its victims on pikes in urban areas, posted torture and execution videos on the internet, forced poor migrants into prostitution and massacred college students during house parties.
    “Other cartels have accused them of not following the ‘gentlemen’s code’ of drug trafficking and causing undue violence,” Bricker told Al Jazeera.
    “At one time, it was considered bad form to kill pregnant women, but not any more.” For safety concerns, Bricker didn’t want to say where she lives in Mexico.
    Deare estimates “probably more than 500″ GAFE personnel received special forces training. He is unsure exactly how long the programme lasted. The Zetas came to the attention of Mexico’s Attorney General’s office in 1999.
    After US training, GAFE operatives defected from the Mexican military to become hired guns, providing security to the Gulf cartel, a well established trafficking organisation, according to Laura Carlsen, director of the Americas program of the International Relations Center.
    “They split from the Gulf cartel and formed as a cartel in their own right,” Carlsen, based in Mexico City, told Al Jazeera.
    The Zetas’ alleged current leaders, Heriberto Lazcano, known as Z-3 and Miguel Trevino, or Z-40, were first recruited by Osiel Cardenas, the now-jailed leader of the Gulf cartel. The name “Zetas” originates from the radio code “Z” used by top military commanders in Mexico.
    But unlike Zorro, the Mexican outlaw hero who also used the “Z” alias, Los Zetas steal from everyone, not just the rich. And they certainly don’t give much back to the poor, except the corpses of their relatives. “They are just known for being a different kind of human being,” says Bricker.
    Frequent defections
    The number of initial defectors from GAFE is thought to be somewhere between 30 and 200, but “the exact number is unclear”, says Deare. However, the possibility of defections should not have come as a surprise to US trainers.
    The Mexican state “does not pay soldiers enough” Deare says. “I am not saying they [the government] have to pay as much as the cartels, but they [security forces] must be paid decently if they aren’t going to be susceptible to corruption.”
    The GAFE’s desertion rate of an estimated 25 per cent is high, even by the low standards of Mexico’s security forces. Between 2000 and 2005 more than 1,300 of the elite troops defected, La Journada newspaper reported.
    The Zetas decided forming their own cartel was more profitable than working for the military or even other drug gangs [Reuters]
    “The US really needs to examine their vetting procedures and manuals to see why so many people who they train do so many terrible things when they go back home,” Bricker said.
    But just blaming Uncle Sam for the rise of the Zetas and increasing drug violence is too simplistic, says Bricker.
    “It wasn’t just US training. The GAFE were also trained by the Kaibiles of Guatemala, a notoriously brutal special operations force from that country’s dirty war in the 1980s,” said Bricker.
    And even without special training for cartels, there is little trust that Mexican security forces can deal with the drug trade.
    In May 2006, “La Barbie” a leader of the rival Sinaloa cartel, took out a full page advert in a Mexico City daily newspaper, to allege that Mexican police were protecting the Zetas.
    For their part, the Zetas have long complained that the Sinaloa cartel enjoys police protection.
    Despite debacles surrounding the Zetas and increasing violence, Deare – who physically resembles the tough but fair minded under-secretary of defence played by Harrison Ford in the fictional drug war thriller Patriot Games – thinks Mexico needs more, not less, US involvement.
    America has pledged some $1.3bn to assist Mexico in the drug war through the 2007 Merida initiative, but much of that cash hasn’t been spent because it has been stalled in Congress, Deare says.
    Alterior motives
    Other analysts are critical of the initiative because it allows the US to “meddle” in Mexico’s affairs and has not garnered the desired results.
    “For citizens here, Merida causes two great concerns: it raises questions of national sovereignty and there is a lot of fear that under the cover of the drug war there will be increasing attacks on grassroots movements,” says Carlsen.
    GAFE, for example, was established in 1994 to fight Zapatista rebels in southern Mexico, La Journada reported.
    The Zapatistas, a poorly armed primarily indigenous militia, rose up against the Mexican government on January 1, 1994, the same day the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) came into effect between the US, Canada and Mexico.
    The Zapatistas called NAFTA a “death sentence”, in part, because the agreement would allow subsidised US crops to enter the Mexican market, pushing small farmers off the land.
    After battling the insurgency, GAFE gained additional training and support from the US to fight the drug trade, a business which arguably benefited more than any other from NAFTA
    . Relaxed borders increased trade flows in many goods, illegal drugs in particular, and rural displacement swelled the ranks of unemployed young men eager to make quick cash by any means necessary.
    Valued between $19bn and $40bn dollars on a yearly basis – exact figures aren’t available for obvious reasons- the drug trade has massive power as a corrupting influence.
    And despite 50,000 Mexican troops fighting the cartels, despite the mangled bodies and US assurances of support, Bricker speaks for all three analysts from divergent political outlooks when she states: “No one has been able to present any evidence that the Mexican government is winning this war.”
    And, if winning the war on drugs is the goal, training the most violent cartel probably isn’t a great start.
    This is the first in a two part series examining the issues behind Mexico’s drug violence. Follow Chris Arsenault On Twitter: @AJEchris
    http://english.aljazeera.net/indepth/…09775.html
     
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    Alvarez, son of Alvaro, a name of spanish origin. This guy's family is not indigenous american.
     
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    ummmmm dude, how can you look past nationality? none of the guys you are describing have anything to do with the country of Spain or europe alone, hell they probably never even been over there.

    your argument is straight up dumb to be honest, Mexican born and raised makes them Mexican, not Spaniard. hell dude my mother is a very light skinned Mexican, full blooded mexican too.

    by your explanation then and failed thinking all the black gangs in the United States are run by the continent of Africa lol. why you are even making the stupid argument you are making is beyond me, are you bored or in need of something to make yourself feel like you are a part of something???
     
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    and that means what? they were mexican born and raised lol. my boss who owns the shop i work in is of german decent, does that mean germany has a part of his business now?
     
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    all about mexico and mexicans, where is this crap about Spain and their supposed Spaniard Mafia lol?
     
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    LOL my name is of Irish origin as my family is from Ireland, but I was born in the United States and am American. We were all descendents of Africa at one point (so they say) does that mean we are all of African origin?
     
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    Guys, you are both acting very slow here. The point is that these mafia dons are ethnically European. You want me to say it then ok, for your sakes only, they are WHITE. You happy now you have brought me down to your simp level?

    These drug kingpins are WHITE. That is the point. These so- called white ppl are responsible for the mutilations and decapitations in Mexico. Now, I know this is going to be hard to accept for you white priders but facts are facts. These facts are that so- called white ppl are not native to America, they are descendants of the Conquistadors, colonialists and their mission has not changed, to bring chaos to the indigenous cultures in order to rule them.
     

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