‘What stands between us and what happened in London? Guns, guns, guns’

Forget the guy who got hit by the car...Your police force did nothing I repeat NOTHING to stop them because they are weak weak weak men. They finally had to go get one of the real bad evil "guns" to finally stop them. What part of that is difficult for you to grasp?
How do you explain the fact that your police are so weakened due to liberal ideology that they are incapable of doing anything even if they wanted to?

 

LOL! You pretend to be a medieval 'warrior' now and then and you think you could have dealt with those killers? Tell me. How many people you have killed oh courageous one?

 

6 times now no response.

 

That's just awful, sorry to hear that. Can I ask if they caught the people who did it?

 

Thank you.
Nope. Never caught them/him/her.

 

Damn that's awful. Again sorry for your loss.

 

Sorry man, I'm done with you and that.

Move along now.

We must be disagreeing. So be it.

 

Is he expecting the same in the US?

The last line does exactly what they need, resistance, because when a majority is resisting, fighting it can trigger a revolt (from that point on organsation via politics and by the system created organisations)

The thing why all this is happening was because of 9/11 (that terror event changed the world, people's minds, the fear and resisting attitude in billions that saw the events) (the psychological shock and awe that changed the world, was caused by the mass media that spread the images into the people minds, for weeks, for months) and in all the years post 9/11 more and more fear mongering propaganda was spread, week after week.
This event in London is the example of years of psychological change by propaganda (attitude in people has changed by years of instilling fear in the masses.
The effect of years of fear propaganda can be seen in all the political change (in Europe more and more people are leaning towards the far left and right) The propaganda caused this 'defence' attitude (because when people are in fear and in a downward going path of uncertainty because of the ongoing economic crisis the more they psychologically change, defence and resistance attitude)

The system can even stop the police from immidiate respons to let an event happen (tyranny has thousands of details you cannot see directly, but when you connect the dots you notice things that aren't how they should be) (because tyranny is caused/done via all kinds of tricks and tactics) (the police is not independent from the establishment/rulers, sheriffs are organized, and the media is not independent either, the system has got almost every branch of power and media under control, even the sheriffs and gun owners are organized in large numbers, you only have to listen to the propaganda and you can hear what they are doing, only causing fear, resistance and organisation, almost as if there are three main themes running as a script)

Only eyewitnesses with a watch on their wrist when the attacks happened and when the police arrived can verify this respond time.

The 'police' has got a million cameras running, did not one record this event?
Propaganda, hundreds of thousands of cameras, and no police, this is why you don't see police when you need one (while e.g Infowars tells the listeners the other way around, that the US/world is becoming a police state/prison) Because it's all deception/propaganda to cause fear and resistance in the masses (always pro/anti and contra, and never solving or reducing a problem), this propaganda is going on since year 2000.

 

I spent a 27 year career designing and building military electronics, mostly jamming equipment and guidance systems for smart bombs. Regrettably, I have been a participant in the death of far more people than I care to focus on.

Only a sick and twisted person keeps a body count!

You've been playing too many violent video games, grow up. And try to use a bit of Logic, when posting on a debate site.

I am making the point that merely having advanced weaponry is NOT enough, in itself, to protect citizens from terrorist attacks. Nor is the lack of having advanced weaponry enough to stop courageous citizens from defending themselves or others.

Because of these two facts, the premise of the OP is flawed and dis-proven.

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We aren't disagreeing I asked you to provide an alternative solution to guns and you couldn't. If you don't want to debate then I wouldn't be on forums spouting faulty ideology. You can move along if you want but sorry I don't let people tell me what to do. Ill still be here. Enjoy my gun supporting posts.

 

Don't be a sniveling child. How many people have you killed using your lame argument? I never played video games since the Pacman days way back when.

So you designed systems...allegedly..........and sat from afar while others killed people. So you have killed no one. Save your non-violent 'solution' pal. Grow up yourself. Until you come face-to-face with death and have practiced what you preach to others, stop talking nonsense. You play far more video games than I ever have judging from your rhetoric. My 'logic' speaks for itself hard guy.

 

You are kidding, right?

Okay, you can drop it for now. I'm not going further with you on this.

 

BULLSHYT !!!! If I wanted to, I could take an axe or a meat cleaver walk into the local mall or bus stop and EASILY hack some unsuspecting sucker to death, way before anybody could show up and shoot me.

 

LOL you keep telling me to drop but you are the one that keeps on posting.

 

You can chuckle, great.

I still say that the bottom line with myself and millions of other Americans, is that the status quo concerning firearms is no longer good enough.

And yes, we want to and are trying to change and add certain laws.

Those who think the status quo is just fine... will disagree.

And that is where we are with guns in America. We've got a LOT MORE arguing to do.

 

Anyone that understands that the "status quo" or hundreds of years of law abiding Americans owning guns is not the problem, but what would you expect from someone that thinks far left Bernie Sanders is right about limiting free speech.

 

Bernie Sander is another thread.

Still, as far as gun laws and culture... let's just say this is 2013 and some things (right now) need to change.

 

No wonder he got banned in the formerly Great Britain (now officially the United Q'ingdom). Calling these oppressed and misunderstood immigrants "animals" would have gotten him banned on PF.

I myself have been re-educated. I LOVE BIG BROTHERHOOD!

 

Yes of course, because you are here things are different. Typical hubris. You have no understanding of human nature.

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See my previous post.

 

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What? (Just stay on-topic, please. People trying to derail things gets on my nerves.)

Ok, hubris. (I'm so bad; I'm exercising my 1st Amendment rights.)

Yep, 'zero'. Can you ever help me?

 

"Obsession"?

The right to bear arms is an obsession.

Are you against the right of the average law abiding citizen to bear arms?

Of the 18,000 dead, how many were killed by illegally owned firearms?