‘Died Suddenly’? More Than 1-in-4 Think Someone They Know Died From COVID-19 Vaccines

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  1. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    The conspiracy theorist thing is actually kind of ironic.

    A lot of people questioning this vaccine and possible side effects that we just can't know about because there hasn't been any testing are dismissed out of hand as nuts even if we're talking about epidemiologists and people who study this sort of thing professionally.

    They're all in on some fast attempt to deceive kind of like a conspiracy.

    Instead of saying hey maybe we were a little rash with the vaccine. Maybe it was even justified because people were dying. However now that the panic had subsided and we all know we're okay and we're going to be okay we have time to think about and understand what is really going on.

    But we can't have that logical rational cooler head approach to it because if we do it means the pan occurs who justifying all sorts of violations of human rights or wrong. And that's worse than people dying to them.

    So a conspiracy theory is in my mind a paranoid delusion a apparatus created to protect something you deeply want to believe.

    I have no beliefs on the vaccine what I've observed is it doesn't really vaccinate, you don't really get immunity from it, and there are claims of these rather bizarre blood clots that only seem to affect both people who have been vaccinated and people who have had blood transfusions from people who are vaccinated. I don't know if this is caused by the vaccine or if this is just an anonymity started seeing.

    I don't believe the people talking about it just made it up to give scorn to the leftists.

    So always look for this apparatus of lies and deceit wherever you see someone trying to depend on the acceptance of this apparatus of lies and deceit in order to be right and that's the person who is the conspiracy theorist.

    Another example is flat Earth. Would want to believe the Earth is flat desperately so what do they do they try and say everyone who thinks that it's spherical is in on some conspiracy to protect themselves from that sort of criticism.

    They don't crowdfund a expedition to the edge of the Earth actually have a convenient excuse why they don't there's some giant Force this Armada of ships that patrol it and it will kill anybody who gets near.

    That's kind of like this Armada of the right wingers that are making up all of this stuff about the vaccine just to stop people from getting near it.
     
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    Do you even know what a vaccine is?
     
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    You keep mentioning that I "provide links" when I all but never include a link in my responses... You can't even keep track of who you are responding to (at best) or are making up fabrications about other posters (at worst).
     
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    I know how VAERS works; apparently you don't. The CDC itself is full of ****. Why anyone trusts them with regard to anything is beyond me...
     
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    a substance used to stimulate the production of antibodies and provide immunity against one or several diseases, prepared from the causative agent of a disease, its products, or a synthetic substitute, treated to act as an antigen without inducing the disease:
     
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    Your issues, not mine.

    The jab (not a vaccine) is indeed killing people. Period. This is indisputable documented truth. To not accept this truth is to be ignorant (at best) or dishonest (at worst). Population control is not a "conspiracy theory" either. It is something that has been mentioned countless times over the years (by the Church of Global Warming and the Church of Green) as a necessity to "save the planet".

    Once again, YOUR issue, not mine. You really need to stop projecting your own issues onto other posters.
     
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    The floor is yours. Tells us how VAERS works.
     
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    ... and that's what you honestly think the COVID jabs are doing with regard to COVID?
     
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    ... or you can go to VAERS and see for yourself how it works. No need to take my word for it (not that you would anyway).
     
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    There has been testing. We know what the possible side effects 10 years down the road are....NOTHING.

    How would it be possible to have side effects 10 years down the road when the vaccine has worked itself out of your system in a few days.
     
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    I don't think that it is what it is doing, I KNOW that is what it is doing.

    You have any evidence that it is doing something else? Anything at all?
     
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    I would take your word for it if it was true.

    I'm giving you the chance right now, prove that I don't know what I am talking about. Tell us how VAERS works. What is its purpose?
     
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    there can't have been. We'll never know the long-term side effects until you've experienced them you are the test.
    I'm sorry divining the future is not part of science. You can't predict what will happen tomorrow with absolute certainty so there's no possible way you can predict 10 years from now
    It's possibly having side effects now that were unforeseen.

    It doesn't matter if there is not a traceable amount in your bloodstream you can still have side effects.

    It's very possible some of these very peculiar blood clots being found in people who died suddenly are in fact caused by having the vaccine.

    If you're denying all possible realms around the possibility because you took the vaccine and you don't want to accept that you are a test subject you're in denial.
     
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    I don't deny the possibility. What I am accepting is the probability. The OVERWHELMING probability that the vaccines are safe. Are you rejecting the possibility that they are safe?

    It doesn't matter if there is not a traceable amount in your bloodstream? Are you a doctor and can make that kind of pronouncement? Care to explain to us how something that exited your system 10 years ago can possibly have side effects? I would love to know what biological mechanism allows for that.
     
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    Just don't read what the website actually says, as you clearly haven't
     
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    Just don't read what the website actually says, as you clearly haven't
     
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    Nearly everyone I know took the vaccine.
    None of them have died.
     
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    Aren't you, and they lucky little vegemites!
     
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    And you have?
     
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    so how do you think you can know what science will be in 2030?
    that's a risk you are welcome to take I just don't see a necessity for the vaccine as I've had colds before and they don't kill me.
    no it doesn't.

    well I'm not arguing with the doctor am I?
    yeah. This will be easy. I took a training course in industrial radiography and you can be introduced to ionizing radiation to degree and win this ionizing radiation stops there is no more radiation in you. But you can develop cancer from it.

    You can get viruses that damage part of your body and your body can completely fight off and kill the virus the damage is still there this happens with bacteria too one example is leprosy.

    I think you're just focusing on heavy metals and this is probably because you've read some anti-vax stuff and I'm not talking about heavy metals we're talking about an mRNA gene therapy that it's purposes to artificially cause an immune response. People have immune responses.

    So you have to get in your time machine and traveling to the Future 10 years and look at the genetics of people who took the vaccine and show me that they have no ill effects of it if you can't do that you're 10-year prediction is like predicting the end of the world will come next week.

    It's divination and it's hooey.
     
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    no idea what "litle vegemites" is? was that supposed to be an insult or something? lol?
     
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    An interesting statement made in the article;

    "Forty-eight percent (48%) of Americans believe there are legitimate reasons to be concerned about the safety of COVID-19 vaccines, while 37% think people who worry about vaccine safety are spreading conspiracy theories. Another 15% are not sure."

    There are no conspiracy theories when the is PEER- REVIEWED MEDICAL PAPERS and DOCUMENTS such as PFIZER'S showing the in-efficacy of their crap and the adverse effects caused by it.

    5.3.6 CUMULATIVE ANALYSIS OF POST-AUTHORIZATION ADVERSE EVENT
    REPORTS OF PF-07302048 (BNT162B2) RECEIVED THROUGH 28-FEB-2021
     
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    ah, we do not use the term over here
     
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