‘Just to survive’: Wagner fighters recount the horrors of battle in eastern Ukraine

https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/12/europe/wagner-convicts-eastern-ukraine-pleitgen-intl/index.html

when I read about the Russians total disregard for even their own countrymen loves it makes me sick and makes total sense why the Ukrainians want to keep them away from their soil. Imagine a group of people that are so vile towards their own people knocking on your door to come declare their right to your land, your family, and your property. Russians disgust me and the fact that some support this senseless effort of murder and deceit makes me sick. I truly hope we ramp up weapon production and aid to the Ukrainians who are at risk of this and may god be on their side.

 

Why are we trying to save the world? Spending billions and depleting our war stocks defending Ukraine's borders while leaving our own wide open is beyond treasonous.

 

“Horrors of battle” where Wagner troops are concerned should be a celebration.
“Contractors” often are double bottom dealing crooks.

 

These contractors got their fighting men from the government. They didn’t break them out of prison, they were given to them. They’re government troops

 

It’s not treasonous. They are fighting a fight that in my opinion we should be in. We shouldn’t stop sending them weapons we should ramp up production. Stopping for the singular reason that we can’t supply them does show weakness. Biden is not being weak with this move. I would argue to the contrary

 

Why do we care about Ukraine? Its not NATO and I can't see any vital US interests there. It was part of the old Soviet Union for years and we didn't care. So why do we care now? Their are places all over the world where people are dying and being slaughtered. Why did we pick Ukraine?

 

Yeah....you may care when Dwarfstan starts firing missiles on US bases in those NATO states demanding we remove our bases ....or he uses nukes. And then what?.....because that's where it will lead to.

 

You call 1.7% or somewhere there depletion?....wow....inform me when we reach ....say 3%??

 

Pig-rozhins days are numbered....he probably knows it.

https://twitter.com/igorsushko/status/1624662557175996416?s=20&t=cTTFKMYmEhYo_z3hOUZ6qg

 

I care because of the agreement we signed for them to denuclearize their country which they stayed true to so we should also

 

Stable Europe is very much in US best interests, and helping them strengthens the US standing in the world. Our allies need to be able to count on us being there when needed.

 

What do you mean "leaving the boarders wide open"?
The southwest and Texas were part of Mexico long before the US even existed.
Mexico is just sending people to relcaime thier land.
Just like Russia is duing in Ukraine.

 

I wholeheartedly agree

 

The only thing we have given them is old out dated equipment, mainly, that was going to cost us millions to dispose of. As it is we gave it to them for free as it actually saved us money and helped them. I'd call that win-win.

 

On the day of his second invasion Putin declared hos goals of controlling all of eastern Europe once again. So it truly is he loses in Ukraine or we prepare for WW3 when he attacks a NATO country. I am happy to see his army slaughtered and his equipment destroyed in Ukraine, his finances wrecked, so that the fascist Dictator is never in a poison to move on to his stated goals inside NATO.

That this helps a fellow democracy fight off an evil fascist invader is icing on the cake as well as exactly what the lend lease act is for.

 

It is telling Putin ordered that Wagner no longer be allowed to recruit out of prisons and I stead the Russian Army has been ordered to form convict divisions just like Stalin did in WW2. This means Pregozin is on the outs, Putin wants power concentrated with the official state organs he controls, and there is speculation on if Putin thinks it Pregozin is more valuable dead than alive to him. After all, Putin can kill Pregozin then try to blame Pregozin for all the war crimes and crimes against humanity which Putin himself ordered.

 

Try 40% FORTY PERCENT.... https://www.nbcnews.com/data-graphics/biden-us-oil-reserves-drop-40-percent-rcna22855

 

Attacking NATO is WWIII... small to no chance he'll do that. And we don't usually go to war on "what ifs".

 

How is the land "theirs" (Mexico's)?

 

Admittedly, the "Budapest Memorandum" was a promise we broke.

 

Yes... and the Americas were joined with Africa once too. Ancient history like that and the days before the USA existed are totally irrelevant in 2023. Its our land. For a long time now.
The people of Ukraine have the right to determine their own destiny free of foreign intervention... as do all people.

 

Stinger RMP's are NOT "old outdated equipment". Neither are Javelins. Nor are the ATACMS rounds we gave them in the HIMARS configuration. All that and the M1 tanks are state of the art modern stuff.

 

Uhmmmm.... he has NEVER invaded a NATO country and we don't determine policy based on "what ifs".

 

I do not believe they are. They are not regular military, they are a private military. Putin uses them and pays them but they are not “sworn” soldiers.

 

The subject was the percentage of US military spending which is spent on helping Ukraine. The oil reserve has nothing to do with it.

The export version of the M1 is just that, - an export version.