‘We Will Be Going Back’: Lindsey Graham Tells Stunned Reporter US Will Re-Invade Afghanistan

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  1. Josh77

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    Yeah, let’s not be genocidal. Maybe slaughtering every man, woman, and child in cities that do not submit so that other cities fear us sounds like a good idea to you, but I’d rather face defeat than sink to that level. Whatever the purpose of a war, it is not worth doing that.
     
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    If you continue to embrace defeat as an acceptable alternative to victory, you will not be disappointed....
     
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    Are you going to look those children in the eye as you murder them?
     
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    Will YOUR adversaries look YOUR "children in the eye" as they "murder them"...? :bonk:
     
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    I don’t have any adversaries, and if I did I certainly wouldn’t murder their children.
    When I was in Mosul on my second deployment, we accidentally killed a 12 year old girl while we were in contact with insurgents. That **** still has me ****ed up. I can’t imagine what kind of monster would do that on purpose.
     
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    The Mongol Horde almost did wipe out the Muslims in the middle east. Due to a unexpected civil war they had to stop the invasion and move thier massive army back north leaving a small force of about 20,000 men which was defeated by the Egyptian Muslims. They only invaded the middle east after being asked for help by the dying Christian states in the middle east after the crusades failed.

    Just a interesting off topic thing.
     
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    One of the key pivotal points in the founding of our nation was the Cherokee war, which was also known as the Trail of tears. It's universally condemned today, but had those actions not been taken the US as we know it today, probably wouldn't be. I personally will stop short of 'genocidal', but I believe in complete annihilation of enemy forces. This game of wack-a-mole has clearly been ineffective on the field of battle.
     
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    I love our nation today, but I think it would have been better had we not done that to the Cherokee, or any of the other Native American tribes. Who knows what that alternate reality would look like? Maybe better, maybe worse. But, wrong is wrong, and what we did to the Native Americans was definitely wrong. But what is done is done, and obviously we can't fix the past in any real way besides token apologies. But we can strive to do better. I'm all for defeating COMBATANTS on the battlefield. I would never participate or approve of anything beyond that.
     
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    I don't believe in deliberately targeting civilians and would never call for that. For one thing, it plays into the hands of the enemy forces who already want to use something like that as a propaganda message to fight the invader(and even if/as we are actually invading, we want our job easier, not harder.). But I do think the modern day rules of engagement have indeed had a negative impact on the battlefield, as has been mentioned: We liberate the town, hand it to them only to fight it again.

    That's why the constant redeployments. I think it's a simple matter of: Get the job done the first time, and we won't have to go back. And if that results in a deadlier confrontation with our enemies, than so be it. if they want to use human shields, I think the Israelis have it right to frame the argument that it's not our choice of them using human shields and that they should be the ones at fault for the use of other people's lives as a shield and is precisely why we should be victorious against them.
     
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    I absolutely agree that we had been forced to fight with our hands tied behind out backs. Fighting to win is totally different from targeting innocents and bringing unnecessary death and suffering. Personally I believe we were forced to fight with our hands tied because it was intentional that the wars last so long. Quick wars do not make politicians and the MIC rich.
     
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