‘Worst Is Over,’ Cuomo Says as 6 States Ally to Reopen Economy: Live Updates

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  1. HereWeGoAgain

    HereWeGoAgain Banned

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    The nation of the West Coast did the same. Trump is irrelevant.
     
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    And there it is. The first official knockdown of the Presidency of the United States. It took 3 years, a worldwide pandemic but they finally found a way to undermine "orange man bad."

    But they also undermined faith and institutions in government, as well as their own governorships. And the damage to the United States will likely be seen in the decades to come. As those who were at the central of the decision making continue to exploit their "political careers", the citizens of the nation will remember who was exploited.
     
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    You apparently didn’t listen to the Gov of NY
     
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    Because there isn't any lack of leadership by the federal government. Just like when the WHO guy didn't say anything bad about Trump to CNN the other day when leadingly prompted to do so by the DEMOCRAT talking head.

    State's Rights, you do remember that phrase don't you? Who says it the most, your side or our side? "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people." We are in page 3, so that probably should be quoted.

    So by all means go for it Democrat States:

    http://www.politicalwrinkles.com/us-congress-legislative-branch/9647-red-blue-state-health-care.html

    So, why did I post that topic once about a Blue State health care compact, which would require the approval of Congress, because all your Democrat States could have already had universal health care, just have to ask permission from Congress to form the compact.

    Repeatedly I heard CNN...going off about testing, their talking heads were all over we need testing first before going back to work, OOOPS, sorry, testing does not prevent exposure after testing, or exposure while waiting for a result. So how many times are you going to test? Forget about it.

    Whether or not ALL the workers have adequate protection in those States, masks, and sanitizer...is more important than testing. And if you want a nice big juicy health care system for that region, by all means, just ask Congress and form it your fracking selves.
     
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    Yes, that is true for the most part. It's really more of a well-coordinated collaboration between state governors and the federal government.

    The Governor's are meeting with Pence and the task force weekly on a conference call.

    They are making plans based on advice from the national experts. Governors have been asked to decide on their plans to reopen, based of national guidance. That's what they're doing. No mystery here.

    Trump said last Friday that we aren't opening until it's safe to do so.

    Reopening will happen in safer geographic "pockets" and in stages. Some businesses will open before others.

    It's great to see the White House administration and the state governors working so well together in a nonpartisan way.
     
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    What a great statement and not in all caps. Who wouda thunk?

    Now, let's say NY's cases of the Chinese virus start increasing as a result of the democrat governors' decisions.
    How will you handle this,
    1. Start blaming Trump for the democrat Governors' decision to allow people to leave their apartments?
    or
    2. Resume blaming Trump just because you hate him?
     
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    I'm just going to ask you to square the bolded with Trump's claim yesterday that he has total authority to force States to re-open their economies.
     
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    Trump cant do **** and he cant force ****.

    But Congress could
     
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    The bolded does not violate the commerce clause. If one state had the plant to manufacture masks, what law (especially constitutional) could you quote to give the governor or his legislature the power to prevent that plant from being opened for commerce? Food...some states can't possibly feed themselves...

    You will be going down a slippery slope interfering with commerce, making it a State power; Trump's power with regard to commerce is only from Congress, that is the part of amendment ten "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution," and clearly commerce is delegated to the United States Congress, not a state. {period}
     
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    I believe you once said you were planning to sell your business in CA and move to a state that had some common sense. Has the China Virus altered your plan or the value of your business?
     
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    I’ve made the move, but I am an employee, not a business owner. I sold my CA home and now have a place in north Idaho. I’m deemed essential so still working.... for now.
     
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    Great news. Thanks for the update. I have been wondering.
    To stay on topic, I think Fredo's brother has put himself in a situation where there is no winner. Open the economy and cause more death or keep it locked down and destroy his state's economy. He should have just stuck to his lie that the Federal government was not helping at all. CNN, CBS, and MSNBS would have picked up on that and kept it running for weeks by continuing to run shots of hospitals in Italy claiming it was NYC thus taking him off the hook for a very long time.

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/cbs-n...owded-nyc-hospital-that-was-actually-in-italy
     
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    He's right. Those states are going broke. They have no choice, which is too bad. If you look at 3 things that created hot spots in the US and Europe it was elbow to elbow crowds like:
    Mardi Gras which decimated the Hulus and made COVID-19 a racist pathogen

    Feb25MardiGras.jpg

    International Women's Day in Madrid
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    and the NY subway system
    sub-buzz-1131-1499787647-3.jpg

    Cuomo is going to screw the pooch.
     
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    He had a goal in mind. it was never set in stone..

    You will notice they have a goal with nothing set in stone.



    Nothing has changed.. You like some people and hate one man that is the difference.
     
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    LOL, have you seen the SCOTUS scorecard lately?
     
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    Yeah, we should wait an arbitrary number of months for a vaccine, like the one that produced the results we enjoyed during the 2017 - 2018 and 2018 - 2019 flu seasons as reported in Time
    Most flu seasons start off with lots of infections from influenza A viruses, which can be more severe and less responsive to vaccination than other subtypes, while generally less-severe influenza B viruses often strike later. But this year, the CDC says, two different phases of influenza A activity dominated the season, contributing to its unusual length. H1N1 circulated widely from October to mid-February, then H3N2 picked up from mid-February into the spring, according to the new report.


    Even still, high early-season vaccination rates and a relatively effective annual vaccine appeared to help suppress illnesses. In total, the CDC estimates that up to 42.9 million people got sick during the 2018-2019 flu season, 647,000 people were hospitalized and 61,200 died. That’s fairly on par with a typical season, and well below the CDC’s 2017-2018 estimates of 48.8 million illnesses, 959,000 hospitalizations and 79,400 deaths.


    https://time.com/5610878/2018-2019-flu-season/

    100% of the reason to lock down the country, besides the political component introduced by Democrats, is to make sure that hospitals could handle the peak. With covid hospitalizations well below our ability to deal with them, the choice of when to open the country is arbitrary. The same number of people will get sick; the same number of people will be hospitalized; the same number of people will die regardless of what we do. As long as there are hosts without immunity available, the virus will hang around.

    In short, Democrats are hoping the virus will do what Mueller, Schiff and Mullah Nadler failed to do and they don't give a crap who they hurt along the way as long as they destroy Trump's reelection chances.
     
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    The geniuses in California didn't know what was circulating in their state for 2 months before the WA guy who came back from Wuhan. Thousands of Chinese rolled through CA and not a single Dr. figured out they had a novel virus on their hands. The reason a state with twice the population of NY has a fraction of the cases today is that their collective DUHHHH created herd immunity. Stanford is studying immunity in their population.
     

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