‘Worst Is Over,’ Cuomo Says as 6 States Ally to Reopen Economy: Live Updates

Which of those states are you governor of?

 

Rest assured though that even if they had struggled to become properly informed, their ideological filters would have snapped into place making them misinterpret everything said by Trump in this regard.

 

L.A. county is locked down until May 15th, but it's good these states are coming together and planning for the eventual reopening of business. The West Coast and East Coast are getting affected by this in different ways. They need to set their own timelines. For whatever reason, the West Coast has done better with this. I bet it's population density.

I hope we have the testing to pull this off.

 

Note the additional framing... "lack of leadership by the federal government"... nevermind that Trump has been saying the same thing about the need to open back up the economy and that it should be done in stages (by county was his suggestion).

Its freaking amazing the disconnect there is.

 

Bullcrap. This will be over when the economists say it will be over and it ain't going to be July 1.

 

Good to hear, any decision of this magnitude has to be bi-partisan.

 

I keep telling people that unless MSNBC or CNN tells political leftists this stuff then they don't know anything about it. Heaven forbid that any of them be independent minded enough to do their own research. Most of them remain confused in regards to it not being the number of infected that counts but the overall population of a place instead. Or in other words the ratio of the infected in relation to the population. That's just something that none of them seem capable of grasping. But then again, unless MSNBC or CNN tells them the same thing then it is meaningless.

 

What doctors and scientists? All the doctors and scientists?

If you think there's going to be some sort of medical and scientific consensus on when the COVID coast is clear, you're dreaming.

 

Awesome...

Trump was talking about taking a county by county approach long ago.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/governors-trump-coronavirus-guidelines

We all seen the Democrats response to that. If Trump were to suggest exactely what is being suggested in the OP article, we all know it'd be nonstop Trump bashing.

 

They Trump bash even when there's no reason to Trump bash. Makes voting for Trump easy, it's like giving a middle finger to the Dems.

 

They collectively discovered that not only is it hitting their voters in their pocket books but that it is hurting the Dem Party leadership as well which HOWLED that Trump needed to shut everything down. The leaders are terrified that their own voters will blame them; which they should. As for the leftist posters in this forums system they BELIEVE anything that the MSM -- through orders of the DNC -- tell them . . . to . . . believe. Now they believe the exact opposite of what they believed last week.

 

Yup. Texas may begin reopening next week by executive order in some areas.

 

LA is looking at Aug.1st (at the earliest) as a Best Case Scenario.

https://www.dailynews.com/2020/04/1...-county-extends-coronavirus-stay-home-orders/

 

Huh?

Lolwut?

Even a Partial (repeat Partial) Re-Opening by June 1st would be a miracle.

 

https://www.npr.org/sections/corona...S&utm_campaign=nprblogscoronavirusliveupdates

The States will decide for themselves when and how to reopen.

Not Trump.

 

Just like they were the ones to decide when to close down. Not Trump. He can give suggestions to States based on what his experts say... but it was ultimately the States themselves that decided. Yet people still want to blame him for not ordering a stay at home order. Funny how now its acknowledged that it's the States that get to decide now.... but of course it will still be Trumps fault in some corners...

 

Curious as to your different locales.

Anecdotal, but We still have lawn service, construction sites, take out, big box supply stores + the obvious like grocery gas. Gun shops open.

Dentists are emergency only,
Dr Postponed my physical
Schools all closed and most churches except the ones that the media is hammering.

I have done very little takeout so not sure what % are doing that.

Traffic is about 75% reduced.

Is it different where everyone else on lockdown vs lockdown lite.

 

Some People.do seem to conveniently forget about states rights, which is weird because it's the same group that is always bringing them up on other issues.

Plenty of peeps shut down before their.government said it was ok and plenty of peeps took additional time.

 

So, it's a pretty simple divide because Trump is going to be criticized for failing to provide the guidance which protects the most Americans.

In terms of the closing of the States, it was only after Trump took the more somber tone at the press conference that the Republican Governors of Florida and Georgia decided to issue stay at home orders. So Trump's unwillingness to take that tone earlier meant that some State governors were willing to place their citizens at a greater risk for a longer period of time.

In terms of opening the States, Trump's early encouragement to re-open the economy (even going so far as to suggest an arbitrary date) further placed Americans at risk from the virus by suggesting that the situation would resolve itself rapidly. The fact that he did so while the daily case counts and death counts were still peaking just looks really, really dumb and reckless.

 

Trump appears to be one of those who conveniently forgets about states rights because he declared today that he has absolute authority to force States to re-open their economies.

 

I live in metro Atlanta and your situation describes mine pretty much to a T. I have noticed that most car shops are still open as well.

 

The county by county level discussion was mentioned in the OP and explicitly rejected because it is too small of a focus. This virus does not care about arbitrary lines, especially lines that can be crossed in a few minutes like those found at the county level.

On the other hand, when large geographical regions - like multiple states - are able to coordinate their approaches, then localized hotspots within those regions can get the appropriate level of focus.

 

Agreed. Some people just don't understand that our federal government is not all powerful....at least when it suits thier political purposes....

 

What size do you mean by localized? How large/small of an area are you talking about here? Since you said counties are too small then it would have to be bigger than that right?

And you do realize that counties are just the starting point. You can have multiple counties all next to each other opening up at the same time right?

 

I do, but unless those counties have an incentive or infrastructure to talk with each other, then nothing is going to stop someone from a high risk county from just jumping over to a low risk county.

I am not saying that the East Coast or the West Coast pact plan is ideal - they haven't even been formulated, let alone disclosed - but I can almost guarantee you that taking a larger birds eye view of the coordination for re-opening the economy is a better concept than just telling each county that they are low vs high risk based on the outbreak thus far.