“As close to Benedict Arnold as we’re ever going to get”

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  1. Frank

    Frank Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I've not made ANY accusations regarding whether or not Trump or any of his staff have had dealings with the Russians. EVER. Not in this thread or any other.

    Aside from that, all the rest of what you said could be correct.

    But like I said...if this were Hillary Clinton and her administration being accused...the American right would be going ape dung. It would be earth moving...something that seismographs would detect.

    So...I am not disagreeing with what you are saying...I am merely pointing out the cosmic hypocrisy of the right.
     
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    And he was appropriately terminated.
     
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    Frank Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We agree on that, Gary. But if these unsubstantiated accusations were being directed toward Hillary Clinton...or Bill Clinton...or Barack Obama...

    ...you people from the American right would be purple in indignation.

    My point is, the American right...certainly has more than its fair share of hypocrisy stinking it up.




    Yeah, because they are directed toward Trump. If directed toward either of the Clintons or Obama...you guys would almost certainly be taking them very seriously.
     
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    Just to add on, its not normal to continually defend and promote a foreign nation. Even beyond the praise for Putin there has been an obvious effort to change policy in regards to Russian actions. And a barely concealed effort to sweep out (fire) any federal investigators involved in probes aimed at Russia.

    If Russia hasn't done anything for Trump why is he so determined to defend and praise them?
     
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    You'll still barking up that same dead tree 8 years from now as Pence suceeds Trump and ushers in the new conservative century.
     
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    Sir,
    Further,
     
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    Frank Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If you want to think America will stoop to being part of a new conservative century...you are, for the time being, free to do so.

    If you are correct...I suspect that freedom will no longer exist.

    My guess: You are wrong. American conservatism will destroy itself of its own impetus...or be destroyed by the rest of the world as a safety measure.

    We'll see.
     
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    The right understands that its not against the law to have contacts with Russians AND are not easily fooled simpletons that the media could convince otherwise.
     
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    Well, your free healthcare might not exist but freedom will thrive
     
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    Frank Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I am sure the American right DOES understand that it is not against the law to have contacts with Russians.

    Other than that...I think many of the American right are the very personification of easily fooled simpletons.
     
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    Ok you clearly didn't even read what I said and either you're being intentionally ignorant of what Hillary Clinton actually did ...or you literally don't know.

    She TOOK MONEY from a foreign government, ok?

    That's a documented audit-able fact.

    Your conspiracy theory lacks any facts.
     
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    Frank Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Good grief. That was a lame response even from a conservative.
     
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    Frank Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    At least attempt to wake up, Z.

    I am not talking about what Hillary Clinton did or did not do. I am talking about how the jerks of the American right would be acting if the accusations currently swirling around Donald Trump and his associates were directed towards her instead.

    Really. Keep up.
     
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    Considering Trump's connection to Russia IS a conspiracy theory and unproven, what is there to deflect? The Clintons receiving funds from countries/individuals who support killing gays and abusing women/children, is a FACT. So anyone who is outraged over Trump should be more outraged over Clinton....as logic dictates.
     
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    The above is the very essence of trolling. I'm not sure whether I should report it or just laugh and move on
     
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    Another President Trump hating thread....so predictable.

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    Nope that was Progressivism or why we have Trump for president.
     
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    As I said...we will see.

    Surprises abound in this world.

    As for what I hope...I hope today's version of American conservatism is swept back into the sewer from which it came.
     
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    Funny how that works both ways
     
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    Dude If the only information I had about today's conservatism came from the left wing bubble I'd feel the same way...
     
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    By "works both ways"...you mean you think that same thing...that
    the American right are the very personification of easily fooled simpletons?

    Okay!
     
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    Today's American conservatism, Gary, is an infestation on planet Earth.

    Wasn't always so. There was a time in the recent past when American conservatism served a valuable purpose...as the loyal opposition keeping the excesses of liberal America in check.

    Now...it is a political cancer.
     
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    NO but nice try what I meant was that those of us an the right pretty much think the same thing you expressed about those on the left especially the Hillaryphants.
     
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    Either you don't see how preposterous you're being or you realized you've put your foot in your mouth but refuse to man up about it.

    You invoked Hillary Clinton in a "what if" scenario as a seaway to bash Trump voters with a premise is based on the concept of candidates being influenced by foreign powers.

    Hillary Clinton was influenced by foreign powers, she took their money ...this is a documented fact.

    Trump on the other hand was not, there is no proof ...only conspiracy theories.

    So your "what if" scenario already played out.

    You asked how us "jerks" would be acting ...well ...we made sure she didn't become President.

    Bam, you have your answer.
     
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    Yes according to the left wing info bubble which hasn't gotten much of anything right since Reagan.
     
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