“As close to Benedict Arnold as we’re ever going to get”

Okay.

 

You apparently do not know how to read.

I am saying that if the same charges being dismissed by the right (because they are being made about Donald Trump and his associates)...were made about Hillary Clinton and her associates...

...people like you would be going nuts.

By now you understand...but YOU are not man enough to acknowledge what I am saying.

 

When you are right...you are right...and part of what you just said there is correct.

The left did get it right about Reagan. The left said he would be a disaster as president...and he was.

 

The same Saudi Arabia that didn't officially ban slavery until the 1950s and is still committing to slavery unofficially.... worry about the Russians though!

 

I think I see the disconnect here.

The charges that Hillary Clinton was influenced by a foreign power had EVIDENCE and FACTS and were TRUE.

The conspiracy theories against Trump have only fact-less claims and Rachael Madcow diatribes and are FALSE.

You're asking why we're not "going nuts"?

Well...

Its because we weren't duped by fake news, haha.

 

I agree and you're correct, and so is Hillary Clinton, her team and people from the DNC. Just how many Democratic Party Congress persons and Senators also met with Russian diplomats. Are we to believe that only the Republican Party colluded with the Russians, while the Democratic Party and especially Bill Clinton, John and Tony Podesta were actually involved and paid by Russian entities. People living in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

 

Not so nice evasion. But once again...no reason to expect better!

 

Accusations would indeed cause people on the opposing to latch onto the idea that there is something going on that isn't refutable. The problem is that the level at which certain groups react is entirely different. We have groups that protest an act they view as unlawful or terrible... and other groups that decide to riot & destroy based upon accusations. There is no evidence to support their claim but, they're more than willing to step outside their house and commit to violence because they're temperamental people.

I didn't see a SNL skit involving Obama being born in Kenya or after the ACA was passed massive riots destroying entire neighborhoods. There is a level of difference in terms of how people react in these groups and comparing apples to oranges doesn't support your argument.

 

Nope...not asking that at all.

Just noting that if the subject were Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton, or Barack Obama...you poor souls would be going nuts.

But...being reasonable, I am chalking all that up to the hypocrisy of the right.

 

C'mon!

And be careful with that "orange." You know where that is going to end up. Either with Donald Trump or a baboon's ass.

 

Yeah she's doing an AMAZING job! lmao

 

If you believe that, can you find a good reason for American state Citizens to not use the law and stop the corruption completely? Here is the legal process that uses the simple, universal agreement below based in both constitutional law and natural law.

http://algoxy.com/law/lawfulpeacefulrevolution.html

--As a Citizen of a state of the united states for America, do you understand, agree and accept then DECLARE it is constitutional intent and right that the framers of the founding documents intended for us to alter or abolish government destructive to the ideal of our unalienable rights?

As a Citizen of a state of the united states for America, do you understand, agree, accept then DECLARE it is constitutional intent and right that the ultimate purpose of free speech be to enable the unity adequate to effectively alter or abolish government destructive to the ideal of our unalienable rights?--

It's quite clear to me that if Americans do not DO SOMETHING, something will be DONE to them.

 

Clinton/Trump on this matter aren't comparable. Some things ended up not being true(Foster Gate, Pizzagate among other things) but then there's this gold nugget: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/a...-from-travelgate-to-emailgate/article/2562906

Hillary: Pimping foreign influence before it was cool, and literally not a scratch on her. Her lackies paid the price instead.

It's not just the American Right, there are many on the American Left who viewed her as unethical(hence the record 8 million third party voters.)

Whereas Trump may have done some things, but all investigations have literally come up empty. So forgive me if I'm going to give the benefit of the doubt with literally nonexistent circumstantial evidence and absolutely no hard evidence to date.

Indeed, the Left will have to explain to the American People(and its millions of voters) why it sought to poison the public, and undermine this administration.

 

And what I said earlier still holds.

But like I said...if this were Hillary Clinton and her administration being accused...the American right would be going ape dung. It would be earth moving...something that seismographs would detect.

So...I am not disagreeing with what you are saying...I am merely pointing out the cosmic hypocrisy of the right.

 

Believe me, if Trump is proven to have colluded with the Russians, I'll be the first one to push him out the door. He already cut it close with his "bombing terrorist families" comment. I remember we talked about that one, and while I agreed it was against INTL law, I was on the fence(I was actually on the fence ever since Rubio had to drop out.). Now that he's POTUS, I want actual proof. I want to treat Trump better than I treated Obama. That has nothing to do with Trump and everything to do with what I consider my political sins against the 44th President.

 

I wonder why they did not just admit it

 

The whole linked article is nothing but supposition and innuendo--Not one fact to back up the whole conspiracy theory,

 

The reactions of each party would mirror the other if the tables were turned.

So why do never call out the other party for their hypocrisy. Seeing how you always tell us how you're not affiliated with that other party you should have no problem doing that, right?

 

Like we're trying to deprogram the Obama cult. Seems we have a ways to go.

 

And the left would be dismissing them the same way they dismissed any wrongdoing and accusations of Hillary.

Hypocrisy?

 

And I do more than you might know...or be willing to acknowledge.

This particular forum seems to be dominated by conservatives...by extreme conservatives. There are times it seems as though I am listening to FOX...or Limbaugh. And with my acknowledged disposition to a progressive agenda, I do tend to aim most of my barbs at American conservatism...which is what you see here.

If you think I cannot take aim at the left, though, try calling me a liberal. I will fight you from here to hell and back to be rid of that designation. I will not allow that designation to be attached too me; I am not a liberal...and I can be as off-put by the extremes of liberalism as I can the excesses of conservatism.

But obviously I am going to find more in common with the former than the latter.

Especially here.

Okay?

 

Just going by your own posts here. They say all I need to know. Deny all you want.

 

Undoubtedly.

But right now I am addressing the denial of the right.

 

I get what you are saying...and I am not denying it.

I am merely saying there is another side.

But I also am saying that I consider American conservatism to be a cancer on the body politic. The last thing in the world I want to see is for American conservatism to get any stronger.

I can see that there is hypocrisy on both sides of the right/left continuum...but I frankly hope the American public wakes up and sends the far right back beneath the rocks.

 

That is your opinion, which you are entitled to. I feel the same about the progressive left. The last thing I want is for us to go further left.
I think the American public has woke up to the far left ways. Hence, Trump.

We'll have to wait and see how it all works out.