“How Texas’s gun laws allow Mexican cartels to arm themselves to the teeth”

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  1. TOG 6

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    And...
    It is impossible to tell how many time a firearm may have legally or illegally changed hands after that point - and so, this information is of little to no use.
     
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    yea i'm sure the 2.5 million that's crossed this year carry a battery-operated diamond blade saw that might cut through the fence. I'm certain there's no technology that could catch the cutting, and you damn sure know we're not talking about the impassable mountain area. I guess any ole tractor could bust Nancy's wall down, but she still built it. Every border entry area we have has a f'ing fence don't be ignorant. Why does the left just not admit you want them coming over? You have zero problem with all the issues they present to America. Just be real instead of trying to discredit solid attempts to slow it down. Major issue I have with lefties, they lie so they don't have to tell the truth.
     
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    GEE SEEMS LIKE DEMS WIDE OPEN BORDERS ARE A PROBLEM?

    CARTELS can routinely pass felony background checks?

    Cartels are staffed with folks who are LEGALLY in the US?

    And the Left's 'solution' is to burden the right of law abiding to effective self defense? What a great example of too many on the Left reflexively using every angle to violate the rights of lawful Americans.

    GOOD GUY WITH A GUN: Armed citizen shoots knife-wielding man threatening paramedics.

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    Prepared.

    'Gainesville police first started receiving reports of an armed man threatening passerby and damaging vehicles around 7:30 Monday morning, but before officers could get to the scene the armed citizen intervened when the suspect began fighting with paramedics, who had arrived before law enforcement.'

    'If Stacey Abrams had her way, Monday’s armed citizen would probably have been another unarmed victim of this attack, and Fraley might be facing homicide charges instead of being arrested for attempted murder. Abrams took issue with Georgia gun laws during Monday’s debate with incumbent Gov. Brian Kemp, calling for a host of new restrictions on gun owners and new laws criminalizing various aspects of the right to keep and bear arms.'

    Citizens stepping up to protect each other.
     
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    Find one with the track record, resume, and expertise of Summers. Now do you have anything to say about the CBO saying the Inflation Reduction Act will increase inflation? A fact that I pointed out to you and you blythely ignored is that Keynesian economic theory promotes a stimulus when there is idle production capacity but Keynes said said during a period of deminished poduction a stimulus would cause inflation.

    Now where is that free child care that Biden promished would fight inflation.
    https://fortune.com/2022/03/02/biden-state-of-the-union-speech-child-care-costs-inflation/
     
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    Really? A flat out lie just to make a point? Stop
     
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    Do you? Here, let me help you
    https://www.cbo.gov/publication/56537
    I dismissed it because that's what the WORLD did. If they didn't what would have happened....which I asked and YOU ignored just like you did on the supposed better inflation rates of countries. I gave what they are but faced with the truth you ignored it.
     
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    Weird Ronnie, Poppy, Dubya and Diaper Don didn't fix it right?



    Under Bush, workplace raids on factories and meatpacking plants received much attention. But after Obama took office, the Department of Homeland Security unveiled a new strategy and ditched the workplace raids, which also tended to punish employees, in favor of "paper raids" -- I-9 paperwork audits of employers to determine if they complied with employment eligibility verification laws.

    The change was dramatic: the number of I-9 audits soared from 503 in 2008 to more than 8,000 in 2009.

    Under Obama, ICE announced sanctions against major employers. That included a $1 million fine gainst Abercrombie and Fitch that grew out of an I-9 inspection in November 2008 while Bush was president, and the termination of hundreds of workers at Chipotle restaurants.

    In 2007, ICE arrested 92 employers, while in 2012 it arrested 240, according to ICE. Final orders -- rulings at the end of the case which show employers violated hiring rules -- also increased under Obama. In 2007, there were two final orders, while in 2012 there were 495.


    But Obama doesn’t hold a record on final orders against employers. The numbers of final orders hit higher numbers in the 1990s. Those 495 final orders under Obama were consistently exceeded between 1992 and 1998, with a peak 1,063 final orders in 1992, according to data from the government’s Immigration Statistics yearbook.

    `WOW MAINLY CLINTON AND OBAMA?

    Still, I-9 audits aren’t the only way to measure immigration enforcement. While audits have soared under Obama, other metrics have fallen, including arrests of employees, said Jessica Vaughan, director of policy studies at the Center for Immigration Studies, which favors restricting immigration. (YOU KNOW THE RACIST PEOPLE?)

    That’s not a surprise, since Obama turned the focus away from the workers and toward employers. However, by ignoring the workers, "they are choosing to cut off a line of inquiry to nail employers," Vaughan told PolitiFact in an interview.
    https://www.politifact.com/factchec...holds-record-cracking-down-employers-who-hir/



    August 14, 2019

    ICE raids raise question: What about the employers?

    Under President Donald Trump, the number of business owners and managers who face criminal charges for employing unauthorized workers has stayed almost the same, even as almost every other enforcement measure has surged.

    Last week’s raids at seven chicken-processing plants were the largest worksite operation conducted under the Trump administration. The operation led to 680 arrests of people in the U.S. illegally, with expected criminal charges to follow for some. But no plant owners or top managers were immediately charged, following the pattern of other recent sweeps.

    ...Congress first created criminal penalties for employers in 1986. According to researchers at Syracuse University, prosecutions under the law banning employers from knowingly employing unauthorized workers have rarely exceeded 15 a year since then. Between April 2018 and this March, just 11 people were prosecuted in seven cases.
    https://apnews.com/article/immigrat...news-arrests-e7113c50a6fd4d2688fc2f2b8a9a91cd
     
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    Diamond? lol Sorry simple sawzalls with a $10 blade does it

    Mar 2, 2022 — Mexican smuggling gangs have sawed through new segments of the border wall 3272 times over the past three years

    ...Smuggling gangs typically cut the barrier with inexpensive power tools widely available at retail hardware stores, including angle grinders and demolition saws. Once the 18-to-30-foot-tall bollards are severed near the ground, their only remaining point of attachment is at the top of the structure, leaving the steel beam dangling in the air. It easily swings open with a push, creating a gap wide enough for people and narcotics to pass through.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/03/02/trump-border-wall-breached/


    NO PAYWALL LINK
    https://archive.ph/acNWS

     
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    Costs WAY more and as we've seen over the last 30+ years, doesn't really work.

    THE PROBLEM IN THE US IS ILLEGAL EMPLOYERS WHICH BRINGS UNDOCUMENTED HERE!!!
     
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    Here is more from my link you left out, weirdly

    Some companies that rely on undocumented workers pay them below the market rate for jobs, exploiting immigrants and undercutting competitors.


    “Refocusing resources to counter exploitative employers is a necessary step in protecting the American labor market and workers,” said Representative Bennie Thompson, Democrat of Mississippi and the chairman of the Homeland Security Committee.


    Workplace raids, which Mr. Mayorkas described as “resource-intensive,” were a priority during the Trump administration, which targeted employers as well as undocumented workers. The goal was to dissuade immigrants from illegally crossing the border to work in the United States. The George W. Bush administration started high-profile work-site raids in a bid to push Congress to pass an immigration overhaul, but lawmakers failed to reach a consensus.

    Employers are required by law to check whether the people they hire are legally permitted to work in the United States. Several administrations have pushed for a nationwide requirement to use a program known as E-Verify to confirm that employees have permission to work in the country. But it currently remains a voluntary program for most employers.

    Immigration advocates commended the new work-site enforcement strategy, but they said it was not a substitute for creating a path to citizenship for millions of undocumented immigrants.


    ...The work-site enforcement policy also echoes new guidance for immigration enforcement priorities that were partly devised to end the indiscriminate arrests that became commonplace during the Trump administration.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/12/us/politics/biden-workplace-immigration-raids.html


    NOW WHY NOT STOP THE ILLEGAL EMPLOYERS, WHERE THE PROBLEM IS
     
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    Cost too much? Hahaha! We can just print more money.

    ALL THE ABOVE.
     
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    From the link I provided earlier that I don't think you read.

    CBO found:
    • The so-called “Inflation Reduction Act” will not reduce inflation. In fact, the bill could slightly increase inflation in 2023. Further, extending Obamacare subsidies for the wealthy is an inflationary policy and would reduce incentives to work.
    • The U.S. economy shows signs of slowing and we could be in a recession right now.
    • The 15% corporate minimum tax reduces incentives for businesses to invest in things like new factories and equipment.
    Also yesterday, CBO released an estimate of the Manchin-Schumer deal. Their analysis showed the Manchin-Schumer deal would front-load spending and increase deficits for years – which would do nothing for the current inflation crisis.

    Now perhaps you will comment on Biden's plan to fight inflation by free child care per his State of the Union Message.
     
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    The source is "Alibabacloud". With a self-image as "Your Partner in Mainland China" and a web page which touts their I-T and software excellence, I find them being expert on M1 Garands much like "Psychology Today" is the go-to expert on bridge building.

    After a career in the US Army I spent a couple of decades roaming the globe on behalf of major defense contractors talking to our own forces and those of our allies, seeking out things they would like to have then returning home to see if my employer could conceive, develop, and produce these things. I never once ran into any military that used obsolete M1 rifles.
     
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    Interesting
    Your proof of the CBO saying that the bill will increasw inflation is an article wrtitten as an analysis whereas I gave a link to the ACTUAL CBO report and you didn't look at it and you think you win.
     
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    Henry repeating rifles are in every old western movie ever made. I'd love to own one. If they made one chambered in 308 I'd scarf it up in a heartbeat. I might even buy one in 223, but that isn't made either. It seems most Henry rifles made today are 22's made for new gun owners. The 30-06 and other civilian calibers they make are unacceptable for me (I only buy LEO and NATO calibers in case SHTF). But I'm always keeping my eye out in case Henry recreates its old "repeating rifles" in an acceptable caliber.
     
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    tube fed weapons have to be careful as to the shape of the bullet for obvious reasons.
     
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    I limit myself to NATO rounds (7,62x51, .556, 9mm, 5.7, 45cal, 12 ga) and LEO (40 S&W)... and 22LR of course... for cheap practice... I do have a Taurus Judge for fun though
     
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    CONservatives LOVE to attack a problem with big Gov't and more spending
     
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    One again, you did not actually read what I provided which included an embedded link to a letter from the CBO Director to Senator Graham and CCed to Senator Sanders, AKA Bernie. dated 8/4/22 supporting what you dismiss as analysis.

    https://www.budget.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/58357-Graham.pdf

    How Would Enacting the Bill Affect Inflation in 2022 and 2023? In calendar year 2022, enacting the bill would have a negligible effect on inflation, in CBO’s assessment. In calendar year 2023, inflation would probably be between 0.1 percentage point lower and 0.1 percentage point higher under the bill than it would be under current law

    So .1 percent lower or .1 percent higher. In other words with respect to inflation Biden is [urinating] in the wind.

    I know you listened to the Biden state of the Union and heard Biden claim that he would provide free child care to address inflation. As a Biden supported perhaps you can explain how this will work. lol
     
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    BTW the corrupt Mexican Government's suit against gun makers was thrown out but now those clowns are suing gun dealers
     
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    As misleading of a title as you can have lol. Texas laws don’t do that.
     
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    So what is your beef?
     
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    Here is an idea. Instead making gun ownership illegal let's just make shooting someone illegal......no wait.
     
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