“Republicans don’t care how many Americans are killed by guns”

It would help prevent irresponsible gun owners from not securing their firearms as well as eliminating straw and secondary illegal transfers.

 

The guns were locked up. No one knew of his obsession. You're applying 20/20 vision of hindsight. Or do you think that those adults with no mental problems get rid of guns simply because their children have a mental health issue? Even when they have not displayed any violent tendencies?

 

No it wouldn't. "Gun was stolen out of my car, box safe and all". You have no way of proving otherwise.

 

What do you want in return?

Australia doesn’t have a second amendment — confiscation is next to impossible even with a national registration. Without one secondary sales are next to impossible to track.

 

After the third time or so this happens that individual would be flagged.

 

You think straw purchasers continuously buy guns? Straw purchasers are generally a 1 time thing helping out a family member or friend.

 

What do you think can be done to stop gun related deaths?

 

There are a few things, making suppressors and/or short barrel rifles (SBRs) non-NFA items are two examples.

It still won't work. Registration won't affect stolen firearms and as far as the criminal act the gun itself is involved in, registration won't mean a thing unless the police actually find the gun. It's just more information for the Government to collect about private citizens.

 

Expanded background checks.
National gun registration.
Insurance.

 

Again

 

yes it’s exploitation If in order to make your point you have to tug on peoples emotions to make it.

 

I would sit it out but I’m not a giant ***** and I earned my right to have an opinion through the marine corps. And there is more than enough laws to put mass shooters away for life. Or any murderer for that matter

 

Sounds like the pro-life crowd.

 

That we have, but putting those dirtbags who survive their crimes away for life doesn't prevent the next one.

 

The idea that your going to prevent people from killing people by restricting tools is a full on joke. Having an intimate relationship with people trying to kill me I can tell you that no matter how hard you try to prevent it people will find away to try and kill you if they want to.

 

If that was the case (no registration) why would not the straw buyer just go buy it theirself?

 

Sure, they'll probably either try to get the same weapons illegally or try to use alternative weapons. There is only so much that can be achieved when it comes to preventing and mitigating the effects of crime. But making it more difficult for them to get the deadliest weapons will have some impact. Expanding background checks and making certain kinds of weapons illegal outside of certain contexts, for instance, will keep some from trying, keep others from succeeding, and allow law enforcement to better detect and catch them before they succeed, potentially.

We have to bear in mind that even countries without our 2nd Amendment have guns, yet they do a better job of keeping them out of the hands of people who obviously should not have them. They don't prevent all mass shootings and other gun-related deaths and injuries in their countries, but they do a much better job of it than we are doing.

 

Why do you think those things will stop criminals from killing others with guns?

 

Do they though? The club shooting in Paris was done with a couple fully automatic aks-47s. A weapons that’s illegal here. France has no gun rights for its citizens. They had no problem acquiring those in the heart of Europe where most people don’t own firearms. Now take America where 1/3 the population at least is armed. How you think the benefit of restriction firearms and causing widespread anger is a plausible solution is interesting to say the least. More than that semi automatic weapons bans only cover less than 1 percent of the homicides each year. Your 3 times more likely to die in a fist fight then by a rifle. Expanding background checks is a waste of tax payer money as we already have the NICS system in place that works. It won’t fix suicides either which is the majority of gun related deaths over 2/3. France has a higher suicide rate than we do. Japan does, Belgium does, etc. and they have a higher suicide rate than us despite no gun ownership.

Semi automatic weapons bans are not worth pissing off half the country for basically no gain in safety

 

They had no problem getting those AKs? The French have no rights? Come on, now. You're just being silly.

Weapon bans are worth the lives they will save. People should try being rational and reasonable instead of getting pissed off over stupid fantasies of gun-grabbing big gubmint.

 

How many more home invasions will there be, Duradal.

More Korean store owners in bad areas will have to invest in very expensive plexiglass shields... Or they simply won't be able to operate in those areas anymore, because the crime rate is too bad.

Then with no stores, all those people in that bad neighborhood will start spilling out into everywhere else.

Your idea is blissfully ignorant, and assumes that all areas are good areas with very little crime.

 

The French have no gun rights, what is hard to understand about that?? And I’ve just demonstrably illustrated to you that banning certain guns will have no affect on the murder rate. I can provide you with hard numbers if you need. The only fantasy here is that banning the ar-15 is going to reduce murder

 

Fewer people die by gun homicides, suicides and accidents where there are fewer guns. There are fewer mass shootings by far in other countries. And without semi-automatic weapons, mass shooters would not have nearly the same capacity to kill multiple people, saving lives in those situations. Good luck killing 10 people at a supermarket with a bolt-action rifle, revolver pistol or shotgun before police or an armed citizen can shut you down.

People need to stop pretending that gun control is useless, because it absolutely is not useless. You're choosing to live in denial out of some ideology, evidently based on a lifetime of pro-gun brainwashing. If you've seen combat, then you know the horrors that guns enable. I would think you could then appreciate the good that more gun control could accomplish. But it's vital that it goes far enough to make a difference. As things have been so far, we haven't been able to do that as a country due to how the Second Amendment, an amendment that was based on militias and muskets, is interpreted today.

 

Residency or background check requirements.

 

How many more false claims are you going to make.
false claims you have made so far:
1. Banning semi automatic will reduce murder rate: false. Semi automatics account for less than 1 percent of homicides. Knives, blunt objects, fist/feet account for homicides than all types of rifles and shot guns combined

2. Banning guns reduces suicides. False. France has a higher suicide rate than the US despite having virtually no gun ownership.

3. Banning guns reduces gun homicide rate. False. Australia homicide rate from the date of its gun ban inception to 2013 fell by 33 percent. Over that exact same timeframe in the USA, and in spite of an increase in gun ownership, the USA homicide rate fell by 32 percent.

4. Second amendment was based on muskets, false, early forms of semi automatic rifles like the gardonanni air rifle already existed. More than that private vessels could legally carry the equivalent of a howitzer in cannons aboard vessels. It’s extremely illogical to assume the founders couldn’t foresee improvements in technology since it was already happening. By the way I learned that watching my television news which is also protected by a constitutional amendment.

5. Second amendment is connected to militia service- semi true. But to acknowledge that would require you to acknowledge that every citizen is part of the militia and has nothing to do with the national guard or military. Furthermore the bill of rights is a list of individual rights, not collective rights.

6. I have seen combat with 1/3 2002-2006. Yes that means I was in Fallujah in 2004. Which is only relevant in that I’ve seen what man can do to man and it makes me even more sure that we should fight to keep the second amendment all the days of our lives.