“TSA confiscated record number of guns from airline passengers in 2022”

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    “Transportation Security Administration officers confiscated more than 6,542 firearms from airport passengers in 2022 — the highest number recorded since the agency's inception. Of those guns taken at airport security checkpoints, 88% were loaded, the agency announced Tuesday.”

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/tsa-guns-2022/
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/tsa-fin...gs-

    Which raises some interesting questions

    First, if the Second Amendment is irrevocable, shall not be infringed,” as many gun advocates argue, does that mean Americans should be able to carry guns, as many guns as they want, on airplanes? Does barring guns from airlines violate the Second Amendment?

    And secondly, if guns can be prohibited from air travel, does it not also show that guns can be regulated, that no Constitutional right is absolute?
     
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    Airlines are private property, and as such owners of private property can make their own rules. Oh, and you can lock them in your suitcase and declare them and still travel with them.

    This thread may not go as planned when reality sets in.
     
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    Yes, we should be allowed to carry guns during travel and that includes on planes. 9-11 would have never happened if that were the case. And the second amendment was intended to be absolute, shall not be infringed was not added as a joke or a debating topic. Shall not be infringed was enshrined in a constitution, not a law, not a rule, but a constitutional right. If we want to change it there is a pathway to do so and that pathway is the amendment process not common law that the constitution explicitly overrides


    The idea that the constitution means nothing and that the constitution is not absolute then why do we even have it? If it does not forbid state and federal governments from those rights as Tench Coxe said it does then why would it even be necessary
     
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    9-11 would never have happened? You do realize that the terrorists would also have had guns and the terrorists locked themselves in the cockpits when they hijacked the planes? Do you think that some sort of shoot out in a plane would have happened with terrorists ready to commit suicide? Also, the aim of most plane hijackings at that time was not to crash the planes so when would that shoot out start? Why do gun advocates think that carrying a gun automatically makes them ready to give up their lives to become a hero?
     
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    Do you know the possible consequences of a gun going off inside of a plane in flight?

    The Constitution sets up the framework for the Government to operate

    Why would the “right” to possess a gun be absolute when none of the other rights in the Constitution are absolute? They all are, and have always been, regulated
     
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    It saddens me that there are 6,500 people in this country, assuming one idiot per gun, stupid enough to carry a gun to the airport and try to travel with it.


    While a gun owner myself, how were 6,500 morons get guns in the first place?
     
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    I don't fly, so my 2A rights are unaffected.
     
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    How is the right to religious expression regulated?

    How is the right to a free press regulated?
     
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    If done correctly you can fly and have your fire arm on the plane at the same time. It would be nice if they sold the ones they collected in an auction....
     
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    Wrong, all rights in the constitution were originally designed to be absolute. They break one they will break them all
     
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    No one inquired into your own personal situation
     
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    I say its okay to ban guns (And snakes) on a plane. Law enforcement should use only frangible ammo on planes.
     
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    Any official recitation of prayer in a public school is restricted

    School newspapers can not print anything they want
     
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    You asked how our 2A rights were affected.
     
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    Well then they are all broken cause everyone of them are, and always has been, regulated
     
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    But, a student praying isn't.

    I know of no regulations on the free practice of religion.

    I know of no newspaper that is regulated by the government.
     
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    I don't have to get permission from the government to go to church.
     
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    No I didn't, specifically I asked, if the Second Amendment is irrevocable, shall not be infringed" does that mean Americans should be able to carry guns, as many guns as they want, on airplanes? Does barring guns from airlines violate the Second Amendment?

    And secondly, if guns can be prohibited from air travel, does it not also show that guns can be regulated, that no Constitutional right is absolute?

    Antidotal narratives are irrelevant
     
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    Does the constitution make limitations on private property?
     
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    You asked if our rights were being violated. Shall I quote your post?
     
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    An official recitation of prayer is regulating religion, if the right was absolute, no such limit would be established

    No one is blanketly regulating newspapers, rather what some can print, again, if it is anywhere, it is regulating freedom of the press
     
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    It does but I bet you can't find it in the Constitution.
     
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    The government can't create an official prayer. That's the government being regulated, not religious expression.

    There's no law regulating what the press can publish as long as it doesn't cause harm.
     
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    What does the Constitution say regarding that?
     
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    Ummmmmm - do you have ANY idea what would happen if a shoot out happened on a plane at altitude?

    Lols!!

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