“White People This is Your Future”

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  1. TheImmortal

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    You’re not correcting anything. You’re advocating for discrimination against whites because you think they deserve it. You’re breeding hate.

    You all are even advocating for segregation again lol
     
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    I’ve been with black people when we were stopped by the police. Everyone was respectful. I have lots of other black friends that have never had any issues with police, and they are still alive and had no complaints against those police.

    Could it be that if you just act respectfully and cooperate with the police, you’ll be just fine? Seems like a no brainer to me.
     
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    Systemic racism: a form of racism expressed in the practice of social and political institutions. It can lead to such issues as discrimination in criminal justice, employment, housing, health care, political power and education among other issues.
     
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    Segregation never really went away.
     
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    What kind of delusional crap are you spouting?
     
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    Ask Philando Castille about that.
     
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    I like debating with people. But, I don't like name calling and insults.
    Have a nice evening. Bye.
    P.S. Name calling and insults show that you have LOST the debate.
     
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    Again, I know lots of black people much better off than I am. We had a black president, we have black senators and other politicians, who are very powerful. There are black professors, doctors, etc. sooooo... I don’t see the problem. If what you said is true, none of what I listed would be possible.
     
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    I didn’t call you a name. I said your argument was delusional. Where exactly are we still segregated at?
     
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    I looked it over. I don’t see any racism involved there. I see a high pressure situation involving a gun, and a police officer that believed his life was in danger. Whether or not he should have pulled the trigger is debatable, but I do not see how race has anything to do with it.
     
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    They believe everything has to do with race. Eventually you white people are going to wake up and realize you’re in a fight and you’re losing.
     
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    There is no segregation anymore. Name one place where there is segregation that isn’t self imposed by black people themself?
     
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    When did I make such a claim? Show me even one post where I made such a claim. Show me one post of mine where I claimed there to be institutional racism. Go ahead I’ll be waiting.
     
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    Sounds like you've critiqued the literature into racial segregation (e.g. an editorial example chosen randomly, https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapediatrics/article-abstract/2728454). That must have taken you a lot of time in reading ;)
     
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    White privilege doesn't mean no one else can get ahead. It also doesn't mean that white people have never struggled. White privilege to me is never having been racially profiled or discriminated against because of my skin color. And no, I don't believe there is institutional racism anymore. But there are still plenty of individuals who are racist.
     
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    You do realise that the scholarly research refers to it repeatedly? Gosh, its like you attacked Moriah without actually knowing any of the research. Gosh, please tell me you didn't do that?
     
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    Segregation is in reference to a period of our country where blacks and whites had their own facilities and they were not allowed to use the others.

    That study you referred to (which btw is questionable at best) is not referring to segregated areas.
     
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    It is referring to racial segregation. The clue is in the feckin title. There are plenty of other papers that do the same. The question becomes: how can you refer to someone's argument as delusional if you haven't even had the good grace to check the available evidence?

    Is this another occasion of right wingers believing that their wacky opinions out-trumps evidence?
     
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    There is NOWHERE in this country where there is racial segregation for services. Nowhere. In those hospitals that study references you will find plenty of white women and in the nice hospitals with better statistical death rates you will find plenty of black women.

    That’s not segregation.
     
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    The research shows otherwise. That you don't know it, but still call someone else's argument delusional, only confirms that it is your argument which is delusional.
     
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    Name ONE utility blacks are restricted from using that whites can use.

    Don’t worry. I’ll wait.
     
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    I'll refer to the evidence. That evidence repeatedly refers to the existence of racial segregation. Don't like the evidence? Get a right winger to hug you.

    I've made my point. Read the evidence and then get back to me. I don't have time for delusional right wing beliefs
     
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    Answer the question. Can you name ONE instance of something whites can use that blacks can’t?

    Because I can name several whites can’t use that blacks can.
     
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    I already have. Just on this very specific example, the authors conclude: "The fact that some of our most fragile infants are subject to unequal care is unacceptable. Horbar et al. highlight an important reality. Racial segregation and unequal access to high-quality care place black very preterm infants at a disadvantage from birth. Given the multiple cognitive, developmental, and behavioral sequelae associated with neonatal morbidity among these fragile infants, early disparities in care can influence health and quality of life over the life course. We must do better".

    I'll stick to the research showing that racial segregation in key services still exists. You're welcome to stick to the delusional view that this evidence doesn't exist ;)
     

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