“Whites Steal African Resources!”

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  1. LangleyMan

    LangleyMan Well-Known Member

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    We don't have much information, but these are the more interesting studies, at least on the surface.

    The samples in every case are suspect.
     
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    Go to the library and ask a librarian to get the article for you.
     
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    Yeah, sure--I'm going to spend my time chasing down undergrad research.
    You're so sure liberals are the racists when conservative whites slobber over gerrymandering governors like Abbott.
    What's your point? Hillary was doing a "down home" shtick that reminds me of liberal union leaders deliberately using bad grammar and swear words to show they're worker types. She's a lying pol who blew a great chance to be the first woman President.
     
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    Absurd.
     
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    I can't imagine what you think you learned. A lot of social science research is little more than interesting speculation. The samples in the five studies are obviously biased. Do I really care what white university undergrads think about how they should communicate with black people?
     
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    I learned you don't know how to argue the quality of research, for one. If you wanted to see researched arguments against the article, the citations of the article would be a great place to look.


    Also:

    https://som.yale.edu/faculty/cydney-h-dupree

    I'll bet she cares what undergrads think. Oops. You might want to do something about the egg. A napkin perhaps?
     
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    Even BS sciences can be compromised. Obviously, since they're so often underpinned by the shifting sands of ideology.

    You mean answers that you like. When multiple people tell you something which clashes with your dogma, it's time to start reviewing your acceptance of that dogma.
     
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    Are you suggesting that white people aren't the best people to make declarations about these things?
     
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    He is 100% correct.
     
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    I don't know. Cydney's email is on that page I linked. If he emails her and lets her know he has 30 years teaching experience that says otherwise she'll probably be forced to retract.
     
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    No, really. Librarians love to help people find information. They view it as their job, actually. I've availed myself of this many times.
     
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    immigration is only good if it's done at a level the country can support, as too many, and it disrupts as the society can not absorb it

    obviously it's easier if the immigrants speak the native language than not
     
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    Don't be absurd.
    If I can't read the research, I'm not interested.
    So what?
    It's still social science research.

    If I can read it, I'm interested.
     
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    You're the guy who ignores the racism you should be able to discover even though you may not have many opportunities to experience it personally.
     
  16. LangleyMan

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    You'd be a phenom if you were even half as smart as you think you are.
     
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    Delicious
     
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    I'm happy for you.
     
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    All I can do is lead you to the water. The "water" is on the page I linked. It's hardly absurd to think that someone with research experience would have already found and read it.

    https://academia.stackexchange.com/...n-draft-manuscript-preprint-paper-and-article

    It's also not absurd to suggest that your objections are founded in an attempt to resolve your confirmation bias. The evidence of this is documented here in this thread. We've gone from, no evidence, to just an opinion piece, to "you didn't read it", to "there's a lot more to this", to "we don't have enough information" to "I'm not going to spend my time on it because there's too much information." Let me go ahead and predict some of the future chaff you'll attempt to throw in the air: It's only one piece of evidence. It's insignificant compared to my experience. It's suspect. (Oh, you've already used that one. Sorry).

    What's missing? An evidenced based rebuttal. You could probably find one in the list of citations I suggested you read. Not interested. What do you care about undergrad racism? Of course, that was is mischaracterization of the group of studies discussed in the paper. Group 1 was presidential candidates. Group 2 was undergrads, Group 3, 4, & 5 were respondents from a sample of the general public. You're displaying the behavior of a person doing everything in their power to keep their own prejudice intact.

    When you're ready to offer an evidence based explanation as to why this documented code switching has nothing to do with white progressives treating minorities like children I'll entertain it.
     
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    This article's frame is the corona virus, but it applies to modern race relations as well.

    http://simonsheridan.me/covid-19/the-coronapocalypse-part-26-the-devouring-mother/

    Those with liberal political views are much more susceptible to the devouring mother archetype. They are high in neuroticism and compassion and low in conscientiousness. Plenty of research to back that up.
     
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    Why didn't you provide the link?

    https://psycnet.apa.org/manuscript/2019-12064-001.pdf
    No, it's completely absurd.
    Right. You offered your unsupported opinion.
    To you making up positions for me, as you have above.
    Ah, you take skepticism about your questionable research as a personal affront and incitement to fabricate positions for your tormentor.
    Missing? A presentation from you. Three links doesn't cut it.
    Correct.
    A thousand pardons. I initially assumed the amateurish analysis and study suggested the research was done by undergrads. My bad.
    Uh huh.
    We can generalize from Ivy League white undergrads.
    Or internet samples.
    You're not someone I take seriously.
    The study you cited is nothing more than speculation. It also assigns motives to whites they may not have. The authors, like you, appear to have worked worked backwards from conclusions.
     
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    No evidence
    absurd
    My experience says otherwise.
     
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    Depends very much on how connected they feel to their homeland. Many Filipinos for example work in the west and send money back to their families in the Philippines. Some move back as well after learning or further developing skills or education.
     
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    But what if you are born there and are a piece of ****?
     
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    That's our problem then. We don't need to inherent other countries pieces of ****. Does us no good.
     
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