“Whites Steal African Resources!”

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  1. Fangbeer

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    This is called transference.

    Your response indicates that you've done exactly what you claim the authors did. The paper conflicts with your pre-held belief. You rationalize this by assuming it was generated by novices, flawed, poorly constructed, etc. Conspicuously absent is an actual test of this hypothesis. Where's your issue with Holoien, D. S., & Fiske, S. T. (2013). Downplaying positive impressions: Compensation between warmth and competence in impression management. Journal of Experimental Social Psychology, 49(1), 33–41. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.jesp.2012.09.001?

    Don't just tell me you have an issue with the significance of the data collected and analyzed. Demonstrate it.

    I called that one.

    Let me go ahead and predict some of the future chaff you'll attempt to throw in the air: It's only one piece of evidence.

    You asked me to justify my claim that liberals treat minorities like children with evidence. Evidence for the claim has been provided. The claim is no longer "unsupported" and you claiming your experience, or name calling the authors does nothing to knock over that support.
     
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    This is one of the more absurd anti-vaxxer screeds I've seen, beginning with the first sentence:

    "Way back in the very first essay in this series, I stated that my position on corona was that it was a mass hysteria facilitated by the internet."

    He goes on to equate public health measures necessary to control covid to Nazism. :roll: :roll: :roll:

    Then on to gobbledegook:

    "Jung’s way of thinking is at odds with the extremist materialist philosophy that dominates current Western thought. The archetypes are not testable and not amenable to the scientific reductionism that is our default criterion for truthfulness. Of course, corona has revealed the deep flaws that exist in applying scientific reductionism to the living and breathing biological and psychological world that we all live in. What better time to expand our criteria for truthfulness."

    The irony in his equation of covid measures to Nazism is that Hitler was only able to grab power when Germans were desperate to overcome Weimar Republic inaction to protect citizens.
     
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    There would be no discussion about how you're misusing the results.
     
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    People who experience cognitive dissonance can take steps to reduce it. They may do this by:

    Rejecting or avoiding conflicting information
    Often, people resolve cognitive dissonance by devaluing and discarding conflicting knowledge.

    They may limit their exposure to new information that does not align with their existing beliefs — a phenomenon called “confirmation bias.”

    One example of this is devaluing particular news sources by describing them as biased or false.

    Persuading and justifying
    Individuals may persuade themselves that no conflict exists.

    They may seek out support from others who share similar beliefs or try to convince others that the new information is inaccurate.

    https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/326738#how-to-resolve
     
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    It's proof of nothing. Surveys of Ivy League undergrads and internet denizens are hardly a basis for generalizing about white liberals.
    I just explained. Again.
    Your characterization "that liberals treat minorities like children" is inflammatory, linguistically judgmental and obvious propaganda.
     
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    Unrelated to your lack of evidence liberal whites are more racist than conservative whites, or that liberal whites talk down to blacks.
     
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    Definitely submit this well researched critique to the journal. I'm sure the reviewers will reconsider.
     
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    That's all you have? No justification for generalizing about white liberals from biased samples?
     
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    It's cute that you think you can just call the study bias and dismiss it.

    Try that on the peers that accepted it for publication. Who knows? Maybe the APA will suddenly decide it doesn't know how to review.
     
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    Dude, I'm here telling you that it's rife .. that I encounter it very freaking regularly.

    How many ways are you going to try to twist this to bolster your narrative?
     
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    Where's your evidence Ivy League undergrads are representative of liberals?
     
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    You're all over the place. As I keep telling you, I've seen your conservative pals screw black people over, all nice and with smiles.
     
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    This is absolutely true. Having worked with this stuff for decades, I have countless examples of this particular parenting error. The parent doing this stuff is almost always a narcissist, and will tend to triangulate for that reason (with a golden child and a scapegoat), though the particularly driven parent will actually work hard to appear to be even-handed with all her kids. And that in itself, is just another level of narcissism.

    To give one such example, I was in discussion with a woman (about one of her kids) who expressed surprise when I mentioned calling out one of my kids on some philosophy he'd been reading up on, but which was pure BS. She asked me if I ever disagree with my kids, or hold contradictory views. When I said "yes, of course - they are not me, and I am not them". She was genuinely shocked. She said "I've never challenged my kids' views", and worse "mainly because I agree with them on everything". She didn't recognise that bending herself to agreement was a manifestation of the Devouring Mother. While she's always eager to model her physical disconnection from her children - loudly advertising her support of their 'independence', she imprisons them psychically via an unnatural level of synchronisity.

    It's creating the same kinds of young adults that religious fundamentalists create, and for the same reasons.
     
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    Sure thing, back in the day that kind of stuff was a problem. However TODAY, it's the other side doing the majority of racism.

    And I'm nowhere near 'all over the place' - I've been saying the same thing in every post.
     
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    Are you suggesting the APA is in the habit of publishing studies that suffer from selection bias?

    It probably happens in all the studies that disagree with you, doesn't it? What a weird coincidence.
     
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    So, nothing to explain why you think you can generalize about white liberals from a sample of Ivy League undergrads?
     
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    :deadhorse:
     
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    Show me battleship

    There's one right there

    That's nothing
     
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    Your post above is nothing.
     
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    It certainly is little, but it's more than enough to refute each and every unsubstantiated claim you've made.
     
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    On the contrary, people are starting to realise this truth. Want to stay 'woke'? Then own the racism of the Progressive Left.
     
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    The young people coming up aren't "woke" and they're also unable to relate to typically conservative whites who can't or won't acknowledge that past white racism impacts blacks to this day.
     

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