237 Israeli soldiers committed suicide in ten years

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  1. Jack Napier

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    That is about one, every fortnight, for a decade.

    Probably more than the EVIL NAZIOFASCISTSLAM HAMAS have managed to kill.

    However, despite this being high, they still have a LONG way to go, before they catch up with their US mates, who, sadly, have died by their own hand, than by the hand of their hyped up 'enemies'.

    RIP all of them - I guess they just cannot live with what they have done, and what they were turned into.

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    At least 237 Israeli soldiers have committed suicide over the past ten years, a report says.


    According to secret data released by the Israeli military, an average of 24 troops decide to take their own lives every year, Israeli daily Haaretz reported on Thursday.


    According to the report, an annual average of 40 Israeli army forces also killed themselves between 1990 and 2000.

    The official data regarding the suicide rate had been released for the first time by an unknown Israeli blogger, who was later investigated by Israeli police.

    The blogger also found out that the real number of suicides in the Israeli army had been much greater than what the official data show.

    The Israeli newspaper Maariv published an article in 2003, saying that suicide had been the number one cause of death in the Israeli army.

    The Israeli ministry for military affairs recently reported that the number of Israeli soldiers who committed suicide exceeds that of those killed in battles.

    http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2012/12/27/280323/237-israel-troops-commit-suicide/
     
  2. Jack Napier

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    Good men like this one need to get together, and overthrow their own Gov.

    [video=youtube;ZFsw_VvdJlA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ZFsw_VvdJlA[/video]

    The Gov are leading Jews down a very very bad route.
     
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    [video=youtube;-Ga0s936ldU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ga0s936ldU&feature=player_embedded[/video]
     
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    Those IDF are fine, in my eyes.

    I could forgive them. They seem like good people, who were duped and brainwashed.

    They would be welcome in my country.
     
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    But are they of the same race, being Jews and all? Or have you had a change of heart? Not long ago, in fact today as every day, you call jews sick perverted psychopaths, so I am wondering if these are not jews?
    Do you also get to decide who visits your country?
     
  6. Jack Napier

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    Note you have NOTHING to say, save for using this as yet another means of a snide little attack.

    Oh how I wish I could meet you on a level playing field.

    Topic PLEASE.
     
  7. Jack Napier

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    I hope they got a decent burial, and did not end up like these poor sods..

    Incinerated partial remains of at least 274 troops were reportedly dumped at landfill between 2004-08 by the largest military mortuary in the US.

    The Washington Post report was based on data from Dover Air Force Base, the main entry port for US war dead.

    The newspaper first broke the story last month, but it was not known how many remains were dumped at landfill.

    Families, who had agreed for the remains to be disposed of respectfully, were unaware of the practice.

    Pentagon officials did not authorise the procedure, which was reported by whistleblowers.

    Air Force officials, who have denied a cover-up, said last month they could not estimate the precise number of casualties' remains sent to the Virginia landfill.

    'Disgusting'

    They said a precise count would require trawling the records of 6,300 troops whose remains had passed through Dover since 2001.

    But the Washington Post reported on Thursday that Air Force data between 2004-08 showed 976 fragments from 274 military personnel had been taken to the dump after being cremated.

    Another 1,762 remains - which did not undergo DNA testing because they were too badly damaged - were disposed of in the same manner, according to the newspaper.

    Gari-Lynn Smith, the widow of an Army bomb-disposal expert killed in Iraq, began asking the military in 2007 what happened to some of his remains that were identified after his funeral the previous year.

    After four years of letters and phone calls she received a letter from the mortuary in April informing her that her husband's partial remains had been disposed of in the King George County landfill, reports the Post.

    "I hope this information brings some comfort to you during your time of loss," read the letter.

    Ms Smith told the Post that what the mortuary had done was "disgusting".

    Since the landfill dumping ended three years ago, such cremated partial remains are now buried at sea.

    After the Post reported the practice in early November, federal investigators released a report lambasting "gross mismanagement" at the air base mortuary.

    It emerged that a dead soldier's ankle had been lost and a damaged arm bone was sawed off a dead Marine before burial so he could fit in his uniform and coffin.

    The commander at the morgue, a colonel and two civilian officials were disciplined.

    The three whistleblowers, James Parsons, Mary Ellen Spera and William Zwicharowski, told the Associated Press they had faced retaliation for reporting the incidents.

    Defence Secretary Leon Panetta has ordered a special review of the base's operations.

    The procedures took place at a time when the mortuary was shielded from public scrutiny because media coverage of fallen troops' return to the air base was banned between 1991-2009.


    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-16081240
     
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    Soldiers in every country have a high suicide rate. I think it is because of a sense of hoplessness in voluteer armies as well as draftee armies. Some freely enlist, but then don't want to kill and some that don't want to kill are drafted and ordered to do so.

    Some are fragile and cry inside when yelled at by drill sargeants.

    Sometimes other soldiers pick on the candy azzes. Remember "Platoon"?

    Chicken(*)(*)(*)(*)s taking the loser way out.

    I hope none of those crybabies contributed to the gene pool before they offed themselves unless they were muslims.
     
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    Fine. So all we need to do is sit back, watch, and let more kill themselves.

    It's better than Hamas/Hezbollah/Al Queda put together.

    More if you include all the Americans that murder each other, with guns.

    Technically, Israel and the US should declare war on themselves...:lick:
     
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    No.

    Not 2.3 per year.

    23 per year.

    Do you get the point...?
     
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    still statistically insignificant.
     
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    Right, eventually the weak will weed themselves out. We don't need that lot sitting down and crying over a butterfly while their mates are getting their butts shot off.

    Be of use or off yourself...
     
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    Well, that would put your entire US state in danger though, given that they are so weak, all the can do to convince themselves of being tough is to invade countries that cannot fight back.

    Try it with Russia AND China. Then I will be impressed.

    Brett the Hit Man Hart and Spiderman will help.
     
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    I don't doubt for one moment that some of these ' suicides ' were ' offed ' by their ' mates '. The cults of military immorality and brutality have been exposed to us for some time.
     
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    We saved you lot from the Germans twice. We save Australia from the Japs.

    "Oh please help us America, PLEASE!!!!!"
     
  17. Jack Napier

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    What do you mean?
     
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    As some Rabbi might have said _ " On ze udder hent" :


    Study: Highest Suicide Rates Among Religious Homosexuals
    Suicide and Suicidal Behavior in Tel Aviv, examines for the first time the suicide rates among different segments of Israeli youth, Kipa reports. According to the study, which examined the scope of non-documented suicide attempts among Israeli youth in several communities, it appears that 3.5% of the young people interviewed attempted suicide.

    The study indicates that most of the victims did not receive emergency room treatment, and therefore were not included in the Ministry of Health’s records on suicide. The study, which determined that the number of suicide attempts among Israeli youth is 20 times higher than reported in official statistics, examined a total of 1,134 teens.

    The most significant statistic was recorded in the segment focusing on suicide rates among the LGBT community. A staggering 20% of the homosexuals and lesbians surveyed reported suicide attempts – 112 times the rate among the general population.

    But the rate is even higher among religious LGBTs. According to Dr. Chana Bar Yosef, the study’s director, “this is a sector that does not get enough notice, and it is a hotbed for suicides that you later hear about after the fact. The suicide rate among the religious homosexuals is the highest because they experience more distress when confronting their families.”

    http://www.jewishpress.com/news/bre...icide-among-religious-homosexuals/2012/09/05/
     
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    Back to the soldiers - (dont know whether this was mentioned in OP's PressTV link ) this is extract from Haaretz article 27/12/12

    Release of the official data comes in the wake of information about suicides in the IDF first published by an anonymous blogger, known as “Eishton,” who was subsequently investigated by Israel Police and the Military Police. The blogger found a significant disparity between the official casualty statistics published by the various security forces, and the number of “remembrance” pages on the official commemoration website, “Yizkor”. The blogger concluded that the actual number of suicides was much higher than the official statistics show.

    This is not the first time suicides in the IDF have made headlines; in 2003, the Maariv newspaper published an article claiming that suicides had become the number one cause of death in the military, after a report prepared in the defense ministry noted that 43 soldiers had killed themselves that year, more than the number of soldiers killed in action. Actually, according to the data released today by the IDF, 37 soldiers committed suicide in 2003.

    The reason for the discrepancy apparently lies in the manner in which a death is described. On more than one occasion, families have applied pressure to avoid having the deaths of their loved ones categorized as suicides; as a result, a more delicate label is sometimes used, namely “suspected suicide.” A source within the IDF explained that this is why the army avoids publishing exact data, including the circumstances of each soldier’s death.
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    ( in other words Israeli Army figures are unreliable )


    MORE HERE :
    http://www.haaretz.com/news/nationa...e-their-own-lives-every-year.premium-1.490208
     
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    Kindly discuss the topic, respectfully so, or leave the thread.

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    The question needs to be asked: Why are these soldiers committing suicide? There has to be a driving factor related to all of these deaths. Could it be depression? Is it exhaustion? Are they related to regret over acts committed?
     
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    Not really...when you look at it..it is 23 Khazars commiting hari kiri a year and because everyone in that Khazar stolen country is forced to be a Palestinian killer (in other words join the Khazar thieves army) then it is obviously a whole population trend...which 23 a year seems pretty low compared to other countries!
     
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    These are the results of 'wars' of aggression and occupation. If you ain't crazy disturbed when you go in, what the elitists trick these men into, it will soon make them crazy disturbed.

    For suicide to have claimed more lives of the US troops, than by any perceived enemies, should be at the forefront of your media, who should be asking the questions that you are asking. And demanding answers. That is what true investigative journalism used to do, before it was all destroyed, and replaced with the corporate mafia media. It is just not normal for your own troops to kill themselves at a higher rate, than the enemy they are fighting.

    Still, who really cares about the US troops, right? All those duplicitous cowards who appear on TV and who serve as YOUR elected representatives, they make all the right noises about them, but they do not really give a toss.

    If they did, 25% of homeless people in the US, would not be veteran's.

    Just think about that, one quarter of all homeless in the US, are veterans. Used then discarded. Likely the same sort of duplicitous people would rock up on a place like this, and call such people 'bums', and 'welfare parasites', etc, etc.

    It will be much the same with some of those IDF lads. There is just no way you can make everyone evil and take away all of their humanity, you see. Listen to that IDF guy, in the vid, he is as good as telling you, he admits that his Gov have used their troops to conduct war crimes, and crimes against humanity. This is going to eat away at any right minded person, until one day, they can live with themselves no longer.

    Doesn't impact on those bastards that manipulate them to do such things, since those bastards are not personally having to do it, and they lack any morality anyway.
     
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    The one who started the thread took things out of context.
    The first question should be: Are those soldiers who committed suicide ?
    The short answer for that is: NO

    Those are personnel who belongs to Israeli defense force who had done that.
    Now, they maybe police man.
    They maybe someone who has retired 20 years ago (they retire at age of 40) and got cancer and killed himself.
    They maybe people at reserve duty (some person serve on reserve and are called 2 weeks or so every year).
    They can be desk person (90% of the security forces sit behind desks, hardly soldiers).
    They can be someone who was diagnosed as mentally ill at the army, discharged and killed himself 2 years later (yes, they are also counted in this count).
     
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    The IOF is largely a force of weak-minded conscripts forced into conflict by professional racist thugs and fascist sadists. It's hardly surprising that its self-exit route is crowded.
     

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