237 Israeli soldiers committed suicide in ten years

You miss the point.

The point being that while some may not be active at the precise point of suicide, it DOES wreck the mind of good people, to be induced into doing evil.

It is not even up for debate.

 

Poor sods, youngsters are brainwashed + forced to do things they dont want to do :


[video=youtube;-Ga0s936ldU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ga0s936ldU[/video]



Haggai Matar never expected that his sentence would be so harsh. But as the teenage refusenik reports to a military prison today, he says he will draw comfort from the judges' description of him as a threat to the survival of Israel.
Mr Matar is one of five young men starting one-year sentences at No 6 military prison near Haifa.

They all refused to serve because they object to the occupation.

"I take it as a compliment that they are so afraid of our ability to persuade others that they called us dangerous and have to lock us up," said Mr Matar, 19.

Until now, objectors have generally been allowed to walk free, or have received administrative sentences of a few weeks in jail, to save the military public embarrassment.

But Mr Matar and his col leagues went public with their protest, and encouraged others to join them, at a time when the Israeli army is confronting a wave of objections.

Nearly 1,000 school leavers and reservists have signed refusal letters, and members of elite forces such as fighter pilots and commandos say they will no longer attack Palestinian targets because the large numbers of civilian casualties amounted to war crimes.


READ MORE :

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/jan/07/israel



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Here , IMO - is a very dim flicker of hope for the future , from these and perhaps many more very courageous / brave young people.


[video=youtube;DmCcTSyowhY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmCcTSyowhY[/video]

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Ouch , if for any reason you have problems with video then try this :


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmCcTSyowhY



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Where do you rank her on the "self-loathing jew" scale?

 

You should check out what role the 'Rabbi's' play in their military too, those at the top of the pyramid are not stupid, they know how to manipulate the Jews there, as well, for their own end. For, what, half a century of more, they have fused a national identity together with this pressure, no, obligation, to serve in their military, plus, they have then used Rabbis on top of that, to hammer home the full, cynical, and intended, psychological effect.

Btw, re the above, you see, what Israel tell you about democracy and free speech, it is the public facade, because they know that the media have made such things almost like the virtues of Western nations, and Israel not only want to be seen as being like all other Western nations, but they NEED to be. Hence the facade of it.

But, in reality, behind that mask, they are more akin to a sort of old school E European communist outpost, certaintly there is capitalism behind it all, but that is nothing new, re communism.

I think comparisons with NS Germany are not quite accurate, I would see them more as what I said, a hard line communist style outpost, masquerading on the outside as a liberal democracy.

I bet, 100%, that any Israeli's on here have to be far more wary of what they say, write, and reveal, than we do, about our Gov.

 

I'd say she is more or less murdering another six millon Jews.

 

She was sentenced to 21 days in military prison for refusing to serve the Israel Defence Forces on 22 September 2008, along with Tamar Katz and Mia Tamarin. She is one of about 40 high school students who signed the 2008 high-school seniors’ ("Shministim") protest letter. In order to prepare herself for her incarceration in a military prison, Goldman went to a psychologist every week. She has spent a second term in prison for refusing to serve again.

She claims that the crucial moment of her metamorphosis occurred when she went to the Palestinian village Shufa where the IDF had set up a roadblock. Someone she had considered her enemy stood beside her and someone who was supposed to be defending her opened fire at her.

These following words have inspired many people: "I believe in service to the society I am part of, and that is precisely why I refuse to take part in the war crimes committed by my country. Violence will not bring any kind of solution, and I shall not commit violence, come what may."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omer_Goldman


Jeez.

They will even open fire on their own,and put them into gulags.

 

In second place behind Vanunu?

 

Maybe first place, if this fella she is cosying up to, is not a chosentite, or considered 'too Arab looking'...

 

Rubbish. Japan had neither any intention of invading Australia nor the resources-although the Japanese navy had proposed the idea. The Japanese army contested, correctly, that it did not have the resources or manpower to launch an invasion of a continent 80% the size of the United States. No invasion plan was instigated.

WW1. The USA arrived 3 years late in 1917, by which time the war was all but won.
WW2. Soviet Russia did more to defeat Hitler than the rest of the Allies combined. When Hitler reneged on the non-aggression pact with the USSR and launched Operation Barabarossa, he committed to fighting on two fronts and the war was lost from that point. Thanks for helping mop up the remnants of the Wehrmacht.

Read some history-and not the Hollywood variety.

 

Perhaps they could identify them early and fit them with a bomb-belt ? Nah, it's not the same thing. ' Suicide bomber ' is an incorrect term for somebody that genuinely believes in martyrdom.

 

Just a reminder...to put things in proper perspective.

 

' Proper perspective ' equals a completely different time-frame for a military of a different size , does it ? Let's call it ' proper neoZionist perspective ' , for the elimination of doubt.

 

Is that so, moon?


British Military 197,780
Israeli Military 176,500
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_number_of_military_and_paramilitary_personnel

237 Israeli soliders commit suicide in 10 years, 687 UK military personnel commit suicide in 22 years.

Do the math moon (I know it will strain your brain but give it a shot ). A british soldier has almost 20% higher chance of committing suicide than his Israeli counterpart. LOL

 

Twaddle. Your own arithmetic suffers from the usual, overenthusiastic , antiIslamic myopia. For a start- and chopping up your arrogant nonsense might take several enjoyable posts- the strength of the British army in 1984 , the date you've foolishly chosen to parrot- was 326,000. Not that the British army has anything to do with neoZionist suicide rates, mind, but stick that in your sum and get back to us.


EDIT; I simply couldn't resist the compulsion to quote your tripe;

BORAT;

 

LOL, nice try buddy, this entire ridiculous thread is about active duty personnel and the UK's miliary is 197,780 - just slightly bigger than Israel's military and the suicide rate among the UK personnel is 20% higher than it is among their Israeli counterpart.

If you want to include the reserves than yes, the British military is 326,000 but the Israeli military would be 750,000 or so. Based on these numbers the suicide rate in the British army would be twice as high as it is in the IDF. LOL dumb brits - lousy soldiers, lousy army and lousy mathematicians LOL

Check out this link and cry buddy, that's the only thing you brits are good at - crying, bleating and whining LOL
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_number_of_military_and_paramilitary_personnel

 

http://libcom.org/library/allied-multinationals-supply-nazi-germany-world-war-2

Some kind of nutter blogger? No. A 'bona fide' researcher, but let us check.

http://www.thehiddenevil.com/nazis.asp

Look, Mandrake, I can understand that this is not welcome news, but it happened while the US was sitting on the sidelines and thereafter.

So stop that kind of silly bragging .... OK, because there is a lot more US crap that has been swept under the carpet. Britain took the brunt of the blows; the US claims the victory. Just sooooo sick.

 

Pathetic. As I pointed out, your arithmetic is based upon today's total armed forces over different periods. Only a dumbkin would assume that those totals remained constant over time. You've only copied this inaccurate information though, so the dumbkin label can't be designated. Not yet, anyway. The thread is but young.

BORAT;

 

Yoo-hoo ? Coo-eeee ?

 

Since Israel have killed Jews by their own hand, more than the opposition has, the real question is....

Should Israel declare war on itself?

 

LOL, lying again? who knew, Islamonazis are lying? shocking LOL

According to this link the strength of the british military in the 1980s was 222,000 - 225,000 not that different from what I was quoting. It's significantly smaller today (138,500) than what I was quoting so the ratio still stands - far more British troops kill themselves than their Israeli counterparts. Who can blame them though, living among the moons, naziers and marlowes of the world one is doomed to become depressed and suicidal

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Army#Personnel

 

It's rather too late for you to be backpeddling on a monocycle, Borat

BORAT;

How about this one;

BORAT;

A neoZionist stormtrooper , thus embarrassed, might go out and kill himself some Palestinians.

 

Come on now Borat, don't let those folks you mention cloud your judgement for the british people, which despite their flaws are far from being as bad as you portray them, quite the contrary actually in my opinion.

 

What?

Ppl commit suicide y'know...., there are ways to get out of it, every soldier can ask for a psycologiest and he can decide if to release the man from service, other ways such as strict refusal are also possible, a man can get a few months in military jail (unlike a real criminal jail) and get out, options that ppl can take if they really want to kill themselves beacuse they are in the military.

My upstaris neighbor for example is a fat drunk bum that refused to serve because he is a fat drunk bum, got about 2 months jail and now he can drink his life out and listen to loud Russian trans music in the middle of the night.

 

Sorry about my back-peddling moon, you are right, the british army went from 223,000 to 138,000 in the last 20 years so the average strength of the British army has actually been lower than what I indicated in my original post (197,780) and the suicide rate in the british army is far more than 20% higher than the suicide rate among their IDF counterparts. LOL, stupid limeys, bad math, good at killing themselves.