37 Straight Gallup Polls—Majority: Abortion Should Be Illegal>>MOD WARNING<<

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  1. ARDY

    ARDY Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I thought i would check the numbers of the thread title

    Following a graphic that seems at odds with what is claimed
    Also from gallup

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  2. PatriotNews

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    Seems like you have it all wrong. I understand what I'm saying but apparently you don't understand what I'm saying.

    Wrong. A far right person like me considers all income taxes as tyrannical.

    I never said that. Strawman. I have never endorsed any such laws.

    I've never said government is bad. Strawman. I've also never said I want the government to control a woman's reproductive system. That is also another strawman. Ironically, while liberals cry about the government controlling a woman's reproductive system they have put upon the entire country a healthcare system that does exactly that. They have not only taken away a woman's right to privacy regarding reproductive rights, but for every other healthcare concern of every man, woman and child in the country. Then, they put the IRS in charge of billing you for it. Now everybody knows your business.

    I've never heard that old line.

    I am against hypocrisy, misogyny, statism, theocracy and libertarianism. Seems like you have me all wrong.
     
  3. Gorn Captain

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    "viable"---b.(of a fetus) having reached such a stage of development as to be capable of living, under normal conditions, outside the uterus.

    You NEVER make mistakes, PN....atleast in your mind. One error admitted...and your house of cards ego would collapse. Even on something non-political or non-ideological like word defintions.

    You're terrified of being wrong.
     
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    1. You are hypocritical on your view of Government. You're fine with a large, powerful Government...as long as it's doing what YOU want. So that claim is true.

    2. You want to control women. So the misogyny claim is true.

    3. See #1...you support a large and powerful State...controlling women. See #2. So the statism claim is true.

    4. You support using fundamentalist Christian values and beliefs as the basis for Governmental policy. So the theocracy claim is true.

    5. You are NOT a libertarian....for the reasons cited above. And I didn't say you were a libertarian...just libertarian where it suited you.

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    He agrees with Gallup....cites Gallup....says Gallup is accurate....

    except when Gallup disagrees with him or proves he is NOT in the majority.
     
  5. PatriotNews

    PatriotNews Well-Known Member

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    You still don't understand the meaning of the word "viable", do you?
     
  6. PatriotNews

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    You're so cute with your personal attacks and all. I think this post and your other ones trying to attack me personally will just get deleted so no need to respond.
     
  7. Gorn Captain

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    I quoted it a definition of "viable"....yet you keep denying I know the definition?

    At some point, you begin to look ...insane?

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    What was the "personal attack"?

    Do you NOT want a large, powerful Government (State or Federal)....controlling women...to make sure they don't have abortions?

    Do you NOT want your fundamentalist conservative Christian values and beliefs used as the basis for Governmental policy?
     
  8. PatriotNews

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    A fetus at any age can be viable. Do you understand that?
     
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    I am not a fundamentalist conservative Christian. You can't get one thing right about me. You just are prejudice against all those groups and wish to put me in one of those groups you hate. Stop the hating. Be nice to people.
     
  10. Gorn Captain

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    No according to a definition of "viable" (which I have quoted, and you keep claiming "I don't know the definition of 'viable'.") that says it means outside the womb.

    You screwed up and weren't clear in your post....as an egomaniac you cannot admit even the tiniest flaw or mistake.

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    Fine.....What are your religious views as they apply to political issues? Abortion? Gay Rights? Prayer in school?
     
  11. FoxHastings

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    Something else you claim but have NO proof for......and never will because it just isn't true.....

    Now, QUICK, say it's a strawman and you've been insulted and then that will get you off the hook for answering....:roflol:
     
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    BTW, let's once again come back to the OP Subject line and premise...

    "37 Straight Gallup Polls-Majority"......okay, if true?

    Why is it the GOP controlled US Congress hasn't even held a COMMITTEE vote on the "Human Life Amendment"?

    Why is it a Republican-nominated US Supreme Court MAJORITY....not overturning Roe v. Wade?


    Are Republicans (Congress, Supreme Court) "ignoring the will of the majority"? If so.....what's the point in voting Republican, "pro-lifers"???

    :)
     
  13. PatriotNews

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    Now I'm an egomaniac? Just because you don't know them meaning of the word "viable"? Here is the meaning of the word viable from your source:

    viable
    1. capable of living.
    2. Physiology.
      • physically fitted to live.
      • (of a fetus) having reached such a stage of development as to be capable of living, under normal conditions, outside the uterus.
    3. Botany. able to live and grow.
    4. vivid; real; stimulating, as to the intellect, imagination, or senses: a period of history that few teachers can make viable for students.
    5. practicable; workable: a viable alternative.
    6. having the ability to grow, expand, develop, etc.: a new and viable country.

    Now do you understand the meaning of the word VIABLE? It doesn't just mean a fetus outside the womb. One would have to be pretty stupid to think that it only means a fetus outside of the womb.

    Abortion is a sin. Homosexuality is a sin. "As long as there are pop quiz's there will always be prayer in schools." Ronald Reagan.
     
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    Wow. We have someone else that doesn't know the meaning of the word VIABLE. :roflol:
     
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    WOW! "We" have someone who makes up stuff when they can't answer ! :)
     
  16. PatriotNews

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    Can't answer what? I did answer the question. I said when a fetus is not viable. Do you know what VIABLE means? :roflol:
     
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    1. Yes...an egomaniac is a person who can never admit they are wrong...even in the slightest way.

    2. I posted a definition of 'viable'....from a source....yet you keep claiming "You don't know what 'viable' means".....which clearly is false since I posted a definition of "viable".

    Again, you simply are INCAPABLE of admitting even the slightest error on your part.....the technical term is "narcissistic personality disorder".
     
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    BTW, we might also thrown in "cultism".

    As noted, the Republican Party has CONNED the "pro-lifers" for 35 years, with false promises that "Just ONE MORE Republican President...and we'll get Roe overturned."


    The fact that here in 2015, you still see "pro-lifers" who still FALL for that con, could be an indication of a "cult-like" mind-set......like the people who belong to churches where the End of the World is promised to occur on March 5, 2011....and March 6th comes and they are told...

    "Okay, slight miscalculation...now it's going to be July 19, 2014"....and they nod and accept the revision and keep dumping cash into the collection plate....

    then July 20th, 2014 comes....nothing....and once again, the preacher says "Okay, I forgot to carry the 2....it's going to be September 29th, 2018....this time for sure"...

    and once again the collection plate gets filled up and the preacher takes the money and invests it in 30 year Treasury bonds.

    :)
     
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    ROFLMAO!!! :roflol: Viable means capable of living...hahahaha! I've told you like 20 times now and you are still incapable of understanding what that word means! Keep playing that card. I will come back every time with your definition for you:

    viable
    1. capable of living.
    2. Physiology.
      • physically fitted to live.
      • (of a fetus) having reached such a stage of development as to be capable of living, under normal conditions, outside the uterus.
    3. Botany. able to live and grow.
    4. vivid; real; stimulating, as to the intellect, imagination, or senses: a period of history that few teachers can make viable for students.
    5. practicable; workable: a viable alternative.
    6. having the ability to grow, expand, develop, etc.: a new and viable country.
     
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    But the fetus is not capable of living. It must be kept alive by attachment to a woman who provides it with life. Please note a couple of lines down.....
     
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    Viable Definitiondictionary.search.yahoo.comadjective

    1. capable of working successfully; feasible

    Example....The plan proposed was economically viable.

    Example....The members argument was not viable.

    Example....The design for the Satellite is not VIABLE for it's proposed purpose.

    Example....The assumption that a word has only one definition is not a viable assumption.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    For anything to be "viable" it needs to be kept in an ideal state. All humans, at any stage, require nutrition and shelter for basic survival. You take these things away and no human is "viable". You leave a man out on the street naked and deny him food and water he will die. Does this mean he is not viable?

    A 24 week fetus is no more viable than a 6 week embryo. The baby born at 24 weeks needs environmental support with the help of machinery, the embryo needs the support of its mother (until science develops an atrificial womb). Therefore personhood can not logically be based on viability alone.
     
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    Which is why it isn't. It's based on being born and not attached to the inside of another person.
     
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    You are preaching to the Choir.

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    So you concur. The only difference between a baby in the womb and baby in the crib is location. The actual act of killing a newborn is no different to killing a prenate, but it becomes morally acceptable because it is inside it's own mother's body.
     

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