7 October testimonies strike major blow to Israeli narrative

Here is the list:
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news...amas-war/0000018b-325c-d450-a3af-7b5cf0210000

Israel will publish the name of the victim only after the body is identified in 100%, usually by checking DNA.

 

HFS.....now the jew haters are claiming The people at the music festival were military?

 

So you don't believe information supplied by Israel, you need a list with names and age - it makes sense.
Here again is the list of Israelis killed:
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news...amas-war/0000018b-325c-d450-a3af-7b5cf0210000

But do you believe the information about the number of Palestinians killed without seeing the list with names and age? I didn't see such list - should I believe numbers provided by Hamas?

 

I read through many of those names: the people at the concert and the military seemed to be the two biggest source of casualties. I was amazed at the number of high ranking officers including a 33 year old reservist general, a couple colonels and LtCs several majors and a bunch of career enlisted NCOs. I saw a couple families, mother father and kids who were killed. Nepal, Thailand and the Philippines have grounds to declare war on Hamas it seems

 

Minimize, no, just injecting some truth into the fishing stories.

Like your 20 million claim. Droughts cause famine. The same thing happened to crops in the US the same years as in the Soviet Union.

 

so are you an apologist for Stalin's murders as well as trying to excuse Hamas's murder of unarmed attendees at a music rave? or burning people alive in their safe rooms? or raping women and then taking them hostage?

 

That is false.

 

You've already admitted I provided a list supplied by Israel. So, I've gone first.

So, it's up to you'all to provide the "proper list".

waitin'

 

So, you and @Turtledude are claiming in a country with mandatory millitary service, a music festival with young adults had no one in attendance who had ever been in the military?

Nuts

BTW, conflating opposition to Israel and Jew-hating is ignorant.

 

now that is rather disingenuous =pretending those who MAY have been in the military were actually in the military when they were unarmed and murdered. And yes, there are some far left Jews who hate Israel but most of the anti Israel hate comes from those who hate Jews.

 

APPARENTLY anyone who once served in the military is no different to them than active duty infantry, fully armed. so some 45 year old guy at the concert who served 25 years ago is no different than an IDF special forces guy who is armed to the teeth and supported by similarly armed soldiers. Lots of those people murdered were too young or too old to be in active duty and I doubt any of them were packing M4s or Tavors in that concert.

 

Yep.

Got a single baby at 10 months old which I can find. A few other young children. And while this is tragic, it's far from indiscriminately shooting people which apartheid supporters want to claim. While Israel has killed thousands of children.

Why are people so evil or stupid to not see the blatant hypocrisy.

 

Israel is as far left as left can get. Universal health care, kibutz, . . . Many ignorant people don't realize this.

Hors de combat. It does not matter if one is armed or not. It matters if one is in the fight. If a soldier points a gun at you and you run, you are not hors de combat unless you are a child.

If you want to claim military rules, Hamas is obeying them far more carefully than Israel is. People are lying to themselves are just being evil bastards supporting an apartheid ethnic-cleansing regime if they claim otherwise.

 

Wow, you're finally starting to understand rules of war.

Except for the fact that those too young to serve in the military would be placed in another category as well as those in occupied territories.

Yes, Israel is the worst offender here.

 

Actually, Israel was founded by those who hated Jews and wanted them out of Europe.

Do you know where England thought about sending them first?

Well?

I'm sorry, I shouldn't have asked. That would require reading . . .

Uganda. They were originally going to set up the Jews in Uganda.

Uganda Scheme - Wikipedia

The Europeans who supported Israel had some serious hate toward the Jews.

Obviously, your accusation is completely ignorant and is simply a blatant attempt to smear those who disagree with you.

 

I don't want to get too bogged down in what inevitably becomes mindless debates with mindless people, but here are a few points to remember on the issue you allude to:

• Herzog's Zionist pamphlet was collecting dust in a London bookstore before the previous incarnation of today's "Christian Zionists" (Christian evangelicals with dreams of Armageddon and Bible prophecy along with the British imperialist interest and anti-Semites) took the pamphlet and turned it into the Zionist project. Secular Jews at the time didn't want anything to do with the project as they more interested in assimilation than anything that would further distinguish them from their countrymen. Orthodox Jews at the time thought the project was sacrilegious and against God's scheme for their return to Jerusalem. Some rich Jewish industrialists worked with these imperialists and Christian Zionists, but the commitment of those folks to anything "Jewish" can be gleaned by the fact that the Rothschild's and their ilk aren't today considered Jews anymore. (Many of those "Jews" were even, to varying degrees, Nazi collaborators and enablers initially).
• Those behind many of current right wing factions in Israeli politics are pretty much the same crowd. An odd panoply composed of Christian evangelical Zionists looking for Armageddon and such, military-industrial complex affiliated groups interested in all the projects, positions and money to be earned from propping up an unpopular regime in the region and getting involved in its wars in the name of Greater Israel for ultra Zionist Jews, Project for a New American Century for the more pseudo-intellectually minded among them, and the so-called (sic) "War on Terror" for the average Joe and everyone else. Add to them your garden variety racists and white supremacists who include folks who now days promote Ashkenazi Jews as almost something like their new master race and "Aryans", you have the seeds for the new genocides being planned. This time "Muslims" filling the role once reserved for the Jews, Islamophobia replacing anti-Semitism, and certain "leaders" in the Muslim world the new modern-day Nazi collaborators...

 

You wrote "The land was given them legally by its rightful owners", and you've been proven wrong. And your entire reply is not contesting this one bit.

 

Where?

 

We're all guilty of getting too emotional that we miss out the context, that being hamas is like the ANC and Israel is like the afrikkkaner boars.

 

Excellent observation, I did not know that. I'm glad a jewIsh person has raised this kosher point and not me.

 

Nowhere near the amount of anti black haters. One can then assume that the most hatred is aimed at black Jews.

Do you think anti black haters are sick too?

 

~ About 1/3 of society is too lazy and stupefied by media and government to seek information themselves. Easy to do these days as more independent journalists are using their own websites to report what they find.

~ It always is. The Western war machine must keep operating. As usual, U.S. taxpayers money is being tossed around to both sides – while Americans fight among each other about who is good and who is evil.

"The United States must concentrate only on American interests, and while the country ought to be friendly and open its commerce to all nations, it should avoid becoming involved in foreign wars."

~ George Washington
FAREWELL ADDRESS (1796)​

 

Here
The List of the Camps (jewishgen.org)

 

Other than Sammy Davis Jr?

 

Why are you showing me this?