7 October testimonies strike major blow to Israeli narrative

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  1. Esau

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    And 30 million others.

    Stick to the topic plz.
     
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    Israel is a nation. That fact isn't going to disappear. You can't reverse history. It is their ancient homeland, even much smaller than at first. So they aren't out of place or overgrown. And it was restored to them in modern times by those whose right it was to do so. The only colonizing being done is by Arab Muslims who falsely conclude that the privilege afforded them by their host nations to roll out their prayer rugs and worship their God has somehow become their right to overthrow and dominate their host by force. In any fair estimation of a just God, such presumption is an abomination. What Hamas did to Israeli's on October 7th without provocation was demonic. Now they've brought the Israeli military to their doorstep, which would not be were it not for what Hamas did. So don't blame Israel. You may as well blame God for the fall of Satan.
     
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    zalekbloom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I love the way you censored my post! North Korea, Cuba, Russia are looking for people with such skills.
     
  5. Heartburn

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    You asked.
     
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    zalekbloom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    At first I didn’t understand the word “apartheid”, I googled and I found that Israel is truly an apartheid state, because:

    In apartheid state a Black judge could sentence a White president, the same as in Israel Arab judge could sentence a Jewish president:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Karra

    In apartheid state they had mixed race sport teams, the same as Israel has mixed Arab-Jewish teams:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Arab-Israeli_footballers

    In apartheid state they elected a Black women as Miss South Africa, the same as Arab woman was elected as Miss Israel:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rana_Raslan

    In apartheid state mixed race marriages were legal, the same as Israel:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucy_Aharish

    In apartheid state parliament Blacks had their own parties which could make coalition with the ruling White party – the same as Arabs in Israel:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Arab_members_of_the_Knesset

    In apartheid state there were Black ministers, the same as Arabs Israel:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Issawi_Frej
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raleb_Majadele

    In apartheid state Black had the same voting right as Arabs in Israel:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_citizens_of_Israel

    Thank you for teaching me about the apartheid – do you teach in any University? I would love to be in your class!
     
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    Sorry, what was your point again?
     
  8. Esau

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    Huh?

    Try a different translation software, mine sometimes bugs out too. I think you've been given the wrong word, censored is wrong.
     
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  9. Jack Hays

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    Over 200 hundred civilians including children, old people and for you it is not a proof of indiscriminately shooting?
    How about the claim that the bombing Gaza is "far from indiscriminately bombing"?

    https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news...amas-war/0000018b-325c-d450-a3af-7b5cf0210000

    The above site says: "This list of 1132 names will be continuously updated with names that have been cleared for publication", so my question to you is: how many killed Israeli babies, in what age will convince you it was 'indiscriminately shooting people' while apartheid supporters claim it wasn't?
     
  11. zalekbloom

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    You convinced - I think you really don't understand what censorship means, but it was a standard practice in communist countries - they erased parts of the original text and left only parts which showed the person guilt.
    Anyway, you did excellent job!
     
  12. Esau

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    yep, youre using the wrong word.
     
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    You got it, you just don't like it.
     
  14. Esau

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    ilost track since its been spread out over weeks. im involved in lots of different topics, this discussion lost me lol.

    dont take it to heart.
     
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    I don't
     
  16. zalekbloom

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    This is how Israeli Army if fighting - officers are leading the troops, so the number of causalities is high.
     
  17. Esau

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    Leading the troops against a rag tag band of bedouins :salute:
     
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    zalekbloom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No doubt you know what you are talking about, I am learning about more and more:



     
  20. Esau

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    Let's not hope that any local gangs like Hezbollah get involved otherwise it's GAME OVER for israelis
     
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    We all know better than that
     
  22. Bob Newhart

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    Are you too busy arguing with strawmen to read?

    They're getting desperate with that list. Adding anyone killed by errant rocket fire. If you subtract the rocket fire, I can't see a single child killed by Hamas.

    I would say that the bombing of Gaza is not really indiscriminate. The Israeli's want to murder Palestinian children and they are purposefully targeting them.
     
  23. Bob Newhart

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    But Token!
    [​IMG]

    Always heard this silly stupid thing people say - "I have a black friend!" as if it makes being an ******* ok.

    Placing a single obedient judge on a supreme court of 15 members is the epitome of Token.

    A certain group of Palestinians are allowed a Token representation in Israeli society. This is done primarily to pacify foreign supporters.

    Interfaith marriages are not recognized in Israel. People have to leave Israel if they want to be married outside their group. Something which is obviously impossible for most Palestinians.

    Israel also bans Israeli's from marrying Palestinians from the West Bank or Gaza.

    Israel's Knesset passes law barring Palestinian spouses | Reuters

    Israeli's don't mind giving Token voting rights to a small obedient minority.

    Most of your arguments are made fun of on a regular basis in the U.S.

     
  24. zalekbloom

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    Yes, definitively we live in different universes. If you think that in an apartheid state they had Black judges who could judge White people, mixed race sport teams, or hospitals, restaurants, parks or beaches common to all races, you live in a different universe.

    West Bank, Gaza are not part of Israel, Gaza is ruled by Hamas which has is different laws which are very close to apartheid. Do you think a Jewish or Christian judge can judge a Muslim person? West Bank under military law.

    Here is like things my universe look:





    BTW: Most of your arguments are made fun of on a regular basis by people who know what an apartheid is.
     
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    The numbers from the holocaust have been verified by history and the world. Taking the word of the Hamas ministry of propaganda (I mean the health authority) is questionable at best. A definite fail on your part.
     

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