7 October testimonies strike major blow to Israeli narrative

I am 64, it was Six million when I was in HS, it was Six million when I took two courses on WWII History at Yale, it was Six million since then. My favorite was claims that the Jack booted Nazi scum didn't really murder the Jews, it was "merely" diseases in the camps that killed all those people. No Zyklon B, no mass shootings, no medical experiments or working people to death with starvation wages. The holocaust deniers are a low form of life. Friends of my father-, officers with Patton's tank division, liberated several camps. They had no reason to lie. They saw the gas chambers. they saw people who had been machine gunned. they saw people who had been starved to death

 

as I noted, holocaust deniers claim the Nazis never gassed or shot the Jews, the Jews "merely" died from disease

 

With U.S. support, the terrorist organization Israel has carried on an ethnic-cleansing, apartheid regime for 75-years. Hamas, which was originally funded by Israel and supported by Israel until recently, fought back and militarily won a single battle against the terrorist regime of Israel and you ask why Gazans do not rise up against Hamas?

Easy, they don't want to be silently ethnically cleansed. People don't want to be silently murdered. They want people to know about it. Hamas isn't murdering journalists - Israel is.

Hamas has gained prestige - not lost it. They are showing that the supporters of Israel are callous, cruel, viscous, mean people who love to support the murder of thousands of children. And even with all the journalists Israel has murdered, the truth and picture and videos are coming out.

 

No wonder Ruby Ridge happened.

 

So, now you deny that 40 babies were beheaded.

Don't you think finding out what actually happened might be important before using whatever happened to justify the murder of thousands of children?

 

No one who has posted on this thread believes that.

 

I can't really deny it now if I never claimed it in the 1st place. I think it's pretty evident they killed indiscriminately, irrespective of the method. Again, the very point you seem to be missing.

 

I have no idea what some of the posters who hate Jews believe, But I do know holocaust deniers have made these claims

 

there were enough killed there was no need to exaggerate the numbers.

 

well I happen to know more about ruby ridge than most. The guy who gave the orders to shoot-Larry Potts, should have been indicted. The FBI sniper Lon Horiuchi shot Vicky Weaver by mistake but his action of shooting was illegal-he was trying to hit Kevin Harris who was running into the building where Vicki Weaver was holding her baby. FBI tried to justify this illegal shooting by claiming Weaver and Harris were threatening -with firearms- a helicopter. Evidence at the trial showed that the helicopter was more than five miles away. so some of the higher ups in the FBI lied. The judge found that Kevin Harris's killing of a deputy US Marshal was JUSTIFIED which in itself is rather shocking because that meant the DUSM did something that justified a reasonable man to shoot him (ie Degan, shot Randy Weaver's son in the BACK)

 

Who's behind t "middleeastmonitor"? Since when are young adults dancing at a music festival "military targets"? Or babies? sorry I have to respond

 

Every list I've seen from Israel is mostly military, ex-military, military reserve, or military aged. They took many prisoners, so I don't see any evidence of indiscriminate shooting. Especially not to the scale of Israel. I see nothing but hypocrisy when I see people complain about Hamas.

If people had provided a list of Israeli dead including names and ages of at least three hundred of children, I would have agreed that the shooting was indiscriminate. But we're a month away, and nothing. Any list found now is likely made-up and false.

Just because soldiers were at a rave or otherwise unprepared does not means they are hors de combat.

 

Haven't seen any babies even in the lists of dead provided by Israel. The youngest named person is aged 5 from what I've seen. You're welcome to point out the list of names and ages if you want.

Young adults are military targets if they do not surrender and are in the miliary or have been in the military. Almost all Israeli's are required to be in the military. Same cannot be said of Palestinians.

Israel has been involved in ethnic cleansing and apartheid for 75 years. I find people's support of Israel is either based on ignorance or evil malevolence.

 

More Russians died in the camps than did Jews. So surely they were gassed more, shot more and starved more. Agree?

 

Stalin killed more than 20 million of his own people. The Germans killed millions as well. are you trying to minimize the genocide committed against the Jews?

 

Generally speaking, a majority of the Jews killed by Germany were Belarussian, Ukrainian, Russian, and Polish.

In addition, the Germans were viscously cruel and refused to feed the Soviet prisoners. Of the 3.3 million Soviet soldiers taken prisoners in 1941, 1 million were alive in 1942. So, the holocaust came early to the Soviet soldiers. They got the slow painful death and were generally not gassed.

 

The amount of Jew haters on this forum is rather sickening.

 

and the Soviets got some serious payback. Over a million German POWs died in Soviet prisons and many were used for slave labor years after the war was over. In one incident, German prisoners were starved and then fed a soup that caused severe diarrhea and paraded in the streets while crapping all over themselves. Both sides were awful to prisoners. Interestingly enough, while the Nazis murdered hundreds of thousands of Soviet POWs, about one percent of Americans in Nazi hands died in captivity. Of course Germans in US or British POW camps fared fairly well too

 

You right, Israelis have killed more civilians in Palestine in two weeks than Russia has in Ukraine in over a year, but Hamas killed in one day 1400 Israelis, about 20% of all kills which took Russia in over a year.
And don't forget about women and small children they kidnapped:
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news...m-israel/0000018b-55f8-d5d2-afef-d5fdd04e0000

Palestinians must be very proud that Hamas who ruled Gaza from 2005 were able to kidnap such dangerous Israelis.

 

What lists? There have been dozens of reports backed by photographs that show the brutality visited on the youngest.

I would but I sense it would have no effect on a HAMAS router.

Horse manure. This entire issue was caused by HAMAS attacks. Israel has the right to fight back.[/quote][/quote]

 

Millions.

Sources are in the link.

Jews however were specifically targeted and executed systematically.

In part, due to the U.S. supplying food to Russia, Russia actually took better care of their prisoners which isn't saying much. Only about 1 million German prisoners died in Russian POW camps.

 

I'm still trying to find the list of 1400.

 

I provided a link in the thread. I can't force you to read.

You can't so you're resorting to name-calling.

Horse manure is a perfect description of what you've written. Thank you for providing it yourself.

 

I read it. Totally unimpressed.

You first.

Got nothing , eh?

 

I read over 350,000 German soldiers taken prisoner by the USSR died in captivity. Who knows, might have been way more.