74% of covid cases in MA outbreak were vaccinated

I didn't say they made up the numbers. They reported numbers that included "COVID deaths" that were not ultimately COVID deaths, because of co-morbidities.

 

If you look at where polio exists in the world today, then go back to read stories from where polio vaccines were rejected because they were a Western conspiracy to neuter people chemically you'll find that those are the same places that still have polio today. At worst the Covid vaccine won't protect you but your not getting vaccinated will, not might, will cause people to die needlessly. Its on you.

 

I never understood that this vaccination is like a 100% shield around you and that as soon as a virus hits this shield it drops to the ground. It like other vaccines helps to prevent serious illness from the virus from not even noticing to just the mild symptoms as your body fights it off now having the added protection of the vaccine fighting against it.

Yes in my state the case numbers are up, but guess what the rate of TESTING is also up. It is almost a direct correlation. The number of cases are up to the numbers back in January and February but we are testing a LOT more now. But the number of deaths is still no where near what they were then.

 

Sure the error is not yours mate ? .. the vast majority of deaths occurred prior to folks being vaccinated.. as there was no vaccine .. so of course the majority who have died were not vaxed.

I don't believe your "New hospitalizations stat" of 97% .. Evidence to support this claim is required ..

 

False, there is no staggering issue with out healthcare system. Hospitals are mostly empty accross the nation. If you are dying of a gunshot wound, you will recieve the care you need if you make it to the hospital.

This type of fear mongering does nothing.

 

Are Afghanistan and Pakistan places where the vaccine was rejected? Because the majority of new cases are vaccine derived, and located there.

I'm guessing you didn't read the article I linked earlier. I'll give you a relevant passage and you can go back and check.

 

Afghanistan and Nigeria. ALL cases today linked to those sites that refused vaccination. As it spreads more The Rotary International hopes the next time that they mass immunize the whole world will accept. But this resistance to Covid vaccination does not bode well.

 

600 of them are linked to the manufactured strain. Were the wrong to refuse the defective version?

 

I did my part. I’m vaccinated if a dumbass chooses to not vaccinate and give them Covid and they get hospitalized. Not my problem. We don’t even make vaccinated employees take time off when they test positive.

 

Nice twist to dodge the actual question.

What is it that you're not understanding? BOTH the vaccinated and unvaccinated can catch and spread covid, so why would the vaccinated not have to take time off of work if they test positive? Is it somehow okay if the vaccinated spreads it, but not the unvaccinated?

 

Once the FDA fully approves the vaccine, which is forthcoming, businesses across our country will begin mandating their employees to be vaccinated. Our numbers of vaccinated will improve. Businesses will also be within their rights to require customers to provide proof of vaccination as well. I anticipate by mid fall, our numbers will look better as far as folks who are vaccinated by then.

 

Will the CRT crowd scream about systemic racism since the rates among minorities are so low? Will the effect be a ban on minorities from the grocery store? Or are we just going to ignore that until it happens?

 

It's funny that cons pretend to care about minorities.

 

Hilarious, unless you’re a minority whose vote they’re trying to suppress.

 

It's adorable to read them all in here pretending that they care about them though..

 

What's my race?

 

I just got this article today:

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  REUTERS
  On the streets of Reykjavik, Iceland.
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  By Clarisa Diaz
  Things Reporter
  
  Published 2 hours ago
  In Iceland, 96% of females and 90% of males 16 years or older have received at least one dose of a Covid-19 vaccine. Its vaccination rate, one of the highest in the world, makes it a particularly interesting place to look at the incidence and severity of breakthrough infections.
  
  Covid-19 vaccines were first administered in Iceland at the end of 2020; by mid-July, every resident over the age of 16 was offered a shot. Yet tests show an alarming number of domestic Covid-19 infections are still happening with the onset of the delta variant.
  
  
  In the US, where vaccination rates are lower, officials have described the virus’s ongoing spread as a “pandemic of the unvaccinated.” But given the lopsided numbers of vaccinated versus unvaccinated people in Iceland, the island country is currently seeing more cases of Covid-19 among the vaccinated than the unvaccinated.
  
  
  Since the pandemic began, there have been 8,738 infections and 30 coronavirus-related deaths reported in Iceland. The country managed to control the virus relatively well and has reported only one death in 2021, on May 25.
  
  
  That there are hardly any deaths accompanying the rising case count is a good sign. The data show that vaccinated people who are getting the virus are generally recovering without serious illness.
  
  Iceland provides a case study for how an effective vaccine rollout perhaps doesn’t guarantee herd immunity but preventshospitalizations and deaths.
  
  
  
  
  
  
  

 

Yep. Dumbasses not getting it are the ones dying

 

Yours is the opposite of reality.
CDC study shows 74% of people infected in Massachusetts Covid outbreak were fully vaccinated (cnbc.com)
" While numerous studies have shown that the vaccines don’t work as well against the delta variant as they did against other strains, health officials say they are still highly effective, especially in protecting against severe illness and death. Roughly 97% of new hospitalizations and 99.5% of deaths in the U.S. are among unvaccinated individuals, U.S. health officials repeated this week.'

 

WOW, the opposite of reality but yet I lived it and every since without the vax

 

So how many people died? People are mis understanding what the vaccine does for people.. If you are vaccinated and you get covid it basically turns it into the equivalency of getting the flu.. AS in you get sick and a few days later you get better and go about your normal life..

 

Here in Australia, the vast majority of those in hospital are unvaccinated, with a small handful who've had one dose (so not fully vaccinated). I think so far we've only lost one fully vaccinated person, and that person was in their 90's and had significant underlying health issues.

 

Well .. no, not really.

We've always known that viruses would get us in the end, BECAUSE we can't control mutations and thus can't rely on natural immunity. The only thing we can control, is vaccinations.

 

Just to clarify .. the regular flu is not a 'few days' proposition. Flu is a serious illness, requiring several weeks for supportive therapies, followed by careful recuperation. People who refuse it any more than a couple of days, are often the ones who end up with pneumonia.

 

Sorry to hear that, HD. If it helps you make a decision on your own vaccination, please remember that it's highly likely she was exposed to a signficant viral load. It's unusual to be seriously ill if vaccinated, especially if young and well - and it tends to only happen at occupational levels of exposure - usually repeated. Hopefully she'll only have cold syptoms, meantime.