74% of covid cases in MA outbreak were vaccinated

CDC study shows 74% of people infected in Massachusetts Covid outbreak were fully vaccinated (cnbc.com)

Yet, they are still telling us that the chances of catching and spreading the virus is great reduced if fully vaccinated. Also, the severity is supposed to be reduced, but 4 out of 5 of those hospitalized were vaccinated.

For those of us who pay attention to facts rather than what we are being conditioned and told, the info being told to us regarding the vaccine benefits are lies.

 

Oops. Now they have to deal with the long term consequences of covid AND the vaccine

lol morons

 

Dude, stop!
You put up a source saying something totally different.
It's not 4 out of 5 of the vaxxed ended up in the hospital. It's 4 our of 5 of the vaxxed got covid, but only 4 of them got hospitalized! The initial claim -top of my head- was that the vaccination would protect you against covid for 90 or 95%. But that's not the case against the new Delta variation... yet the vaxxed people end up with mostly mild cases.

You article even says that almost all who end up in the hospital are the unvaxxed. Same with who dies from covid.
Your link reads: Roughly 97% of new hospitalizations and 99.5% of deaths in the U.S. are among unvaccinated individuals
So the vaxxing works. Even against the new delta variation. Vaxxed people just get slightly sick. Unvaxxed people got a 97% to 99% higher chance of dying.
While dying from getting vaxxed is slim to zero.


Who knew science works, right?



I do believe there are some cities where they tore down some weird statues.
Empty spot to be filled with a statue of Fauci? Just a suggestion.....

 

It sounds like you're making a very good argument against mask mandates. Thanks

 

It's time you learn these bald face lies were not EVER meant for you and other with common sense. This hype was orchestrated to control the left wing party, the DNC understand how dramatic, vulnerable and gullible people are and they are taking full advantage of it and them..

Only problem is now their base is beginning to smell the bullshit! I think this is their last PUSH, after this variant the majority of the party will have had their fill of the "You gonna Die" routine..

 

I'm not making in argument.
I'm repeating the figures in the source, and kick in the already open door.


About mask mandates.
The thing is how the staggering amount of unvaxxed people are putting a massive strain on the healthcare. Say you end up in some kind of mass shooting, and can survive it perfectly well... except the hospitals are full with unvaxxed covid patients and so you end up with an amount of care that leaves you permanently disabled instead of getting a full recovery. Wouldn't that be odd if you got vaxxed?

 

OH may, you have convinced me to never get the shot!

THANKS for making it so clear

 

I feel so much better not taking the shot now after reading that post!!!

 

Read my post #3.
The source says something totally different. You never bothered to read it, and parrot some right wing Qanonsense agenda.

 

When your aim is to get a 97 to 99% higher chance (number according to the OP) to die because you do not want to get vaxxed, then go for it.

 

No I like the last one, it was very informative, thank you!

 

No need to rehash it, I'm good and you have convinced me that the shot really doesn't do a lot in the grand scheme of things..

Much love, bro! And thanks again!!

 

The claim was not that 4 out of 5 vaxed ended up in hospital .. was that 4 out of 5 of "those hospitalized" were vaxed - which tells us that the vax is largely ineffective. at least in this case.

 

You never read the article. It reads:
fully vaccinated against the coronavirus with four of them ending up in the hospital
Roughly 97% of new hospitalizations and 99.5% of deaths in the U.S. are among unvaccinated individuals, U.S. health officials repeated this week.


You just read the first post, who made a massive error in reading the article.
And so what we got here, is a good example of sticking to fake news.

 

The claim is... that FOUR people in the hospital are vaxxed, while FOUR out of FIVE of those who get covid are people who are vaxxed.
That's what it says in the link. The poster of the OP made a mess of it.


It's not as if youre quoting directly from the article. You're just quoting from post nr 1 who started spreading fake news. In case you missed it... the fake part is put in red, where I put in red how the article says how it is.

 

Here's a link to the CDC which is the original source.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7031e2.htm?s_cid=mm7031e2_w

.....In July 2021, following multiple large public events in a Barnstable County, Massachusetts, town, 469 COVID-19 cases were identified among Massachusetts residents who had traveled to the town during July 3–17; 346 (74%) occurred in fully vaccinated persons.

......Overall, 274 (79%) vaccinated patients with breakthrough infection were symptomatic. Among five COVID-19 patients who were hospitalized, four were fully vaccinated; no deaths were reported.

 

All in all. That's not something you can make your personal conclusions with.
469 cases of covid -> 26% weren't vaxxed = 122 people.
For all you know the party was attended by 125 people who weren't vaxxed and 10.000's of people who were.
With something like that, you could conclude that unvaxxed people get a massively high probability to get covid. But them stats are not there.

The example of that party where just 5 people ended up in the hospital really isn't a significant number enough to for the overall statistics.
It shows with the link in the OP that states that in almost all cases the people who end up in the hospitals are the unvaxxed. Same as the people who die.

 

I didn't make any personal conclusions. In fact, I didn't post anything except directly from the CDC.

I think you are misreading what is said. It wasn't a "party", but several events held in the town.

The report is what it is and anyone is free to make what they will from it. In any case, this report was cited when the CDC issued mask recommendations for the vaccinated as well as the unvaccinated.

 

The article in the OP is also an article in the OP... stating that almost all people who end up in the hospital are unvaxxed, same with the people who die. And that's from the federal stats and not from stats from 1 party (that consisted of being several events during a small period of time).

You indeed can claim that you have not put up any personal conclusion.
But mentioning something and leaving out something else, is rather peculiar.
I'm aware that some people rather only mention what seems to fit their agenda.

 

The contradictory narratives are self defeating and pretty unfortunate. If, as we got told vaccines are the answer, and now, they are not, well, that pretty much tells us that masks didn't change anything, and being vaccinated hasn't either.

 

No, I quoted directly from the article linked. Again, it stated Of the FIVE covid patients hospitalized, FOUR were fully vaccinated. You seem to be having a fit about that.

 

You couldn't pay me to get the shot.

 

I was a Trump supporter and vaxxed. The largest percentage of unvaxxed in the major cities are african americans and young people, Biden's voting block, bottom line the administration has done a horrible job of getting people to get vaccinated, horrible. By all means keep bring trump up in every thread, you know the guy that was pushing the vaccination HARD, while Biden and Harris were saying they wouldn't trust it to get elected.

 

If you paid attention to the facts (like most people) you would know that the vaccine does not keep the virus off your body, it keeps your body from getting sick from it. That is how vaccines work.

No, they tell us that vaccinated people can still carry the virus.

So who is getting sick? From your article: