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So there is no election in which the people of the several sovereign states elect the president. At least we agree on that.

 

That is not the way the constitution is interpreted. The EC is an entirely separate issue. It is not a "right" or "power".

I have said all along that I don't see the EC as the worst offense to democracy, although it IS an offense.

I've mentioned 2 other categories that are clearly more important problems with elections in the US.

 

so your confusion appears to be intentional then.

 

States representation in the Federal government is not a power? I wholly disagree. If you want to produce something that you think proves otherwise please do so. If you dont, then lets agree to move on. I despise the "yes it is...no it isnt" style of debate, and quite frankly I feel like we have spent far too much time already on this fairly irrelevant point.

If you want to discuss "2 other categories", then say what those are. I am not a mind reader, and I have no desire to go hunting through this thread.

 

I'm not confused. Are you saying that the treaty contains any instructions for the people of the several sovereign states to vote for the president?

 

asking this question shows you are confused as to what we are talking about.

 

Interesting assertion.

Okay, so...treaty contains no instructions for the people of the several sovereign states to vote for the president.

Better?

 

irrelevant to the discussion

 

Great, so you can't refute my statement. Winning!

 

I dont know why the left continues to use Wyoming as an example when Washington D.C not even a state gets Three electoral votes also

 

The EC is addressed specifically.

"State's rights" refers to the level of autonomy that a state has - what can a state do regardless of what the federal government thinks about it. The EC is not about autonomy.

I did state what the other two categories are: state elections for state and federal representatives and the fact that those in DC and Puerto Rico are all US citizens (other than visitors/etc.) and they are ruled by congress with NO representation. That rule even includes congressional control of their internal decision making such as budgets, taxes, borrowing for infrastructure and other stuff where states are free to make their own decisions.

It's rule with NO representation - not just with unequal representation. Millions of US citizens are forbidden to vote for congressional representation - even though both those bodies make more decisions within Puerto Rico and Washington DC than they do for any state.

 

Again Washington D.C has 3 electoral votes for president been that way before I was born. Why do they have 3? Not even a state.



Since the adoption of the Twenty-third Amendment to the United States Constitution in 1961, Washington, D.C. has had three electoral votes in the election of the President and Vice President of the United States, and has participated in every U.S. presidential election.
Voted for winning candidate: 6
Voted for losing candidate: 8
Voted Republican: 0
No. of elections: 14
Wikipedia › wiki › United_States_pr...
United States presidential elections in Washington, D.C. - Wikipedia

 

Unlike any state, the federal congress rules Washington, DC on their internal issues - budget, spending, borrowing, investment, etc., etc. That all has to be passed by congress.

Yet, Washington, DC has no representation in congress.

That is government without representation - which Americans see as a very serious problem. It was enough of a problem that we had a revolution over it.

It was not quite like the last revolution in your country.

 

You need a better understanding of American government, I think.

 

So you dont want to admit Washington D.C has three electoral votes for president, why?

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I'M the one who stated that the EC is in the constitution as an issue separate from the issue of state's rights.

You don't have to try to convince me.

 

??? You just aren't keeping up here.

You're doing pretty well with your English, though.

 

Oh I am keeping up, I find it hilarious one back tracks though,.. also I know why these posters single out Wyoming...


From a late night talk show host. (Embarrassing)


States that get three ECs

South Dakota
Alaska
Vermont
North Dakota
Delaware

Washington D.C gets 3

And Wyoming

 

Just curious: Do you think that is responsive to ANYTHING I said???

 

I am flattered but this thread is not about me, do you have something else to say about the topic so I can comment on?

 

??? You replied to me.

And, I'm wondering what caused you to say what you said, as it doesn't seem to have applied to anything I've said.

 

Hey I am in just in this thread to see if people can comprehend the Senate, house and EC and correct them if they are wrong, it's my passion as an American

 

Funny story. I lived in the city of Chicago for 10 years. I slept like a baby right under a landing pattern for O'hare. Planes low flying in or out about every 30 seconds. Police cars in the city rarely use sirens due to noise pollution, but ambulances do and there are a ton of them. Add the L tracks and honking horns, alarms, e.t.c. it's loud.

I slept like a baby with the windows open because I got used to it.

We bought a nice house in a small town in May. I couldn't sleep for 2 weeks. The crickets. Omg, the crickets! And the freight train horn. I got over all that too and sleep like a baby again.

 

Usually if people quote the response will have something to do with the quoted text.

 

This isn't about me, concentrate..good gawd quit making it personal.