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  1. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    I've had similar experience in moving from the country outside Seattle into the city.

    I still miss the frogs!
     
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    I just asked why you responded to my post with stuff that seemed irrelevant.

    Sorry.
     
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    Unfortunately I am a Chicago guy and lived in Elk grove village and Rosemount Illinois, I call what was posted a fake .

    Now if you said midway I would believe you, I remember that 9/11 day living in elk grove village and taking my daughter to the pool no airplane was in sight
     
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    william kurps Banned

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    No I had to educate you on 6 states have only 3 EC plus Washington D.C.

    Please dont parrot a late night talk show host..
     
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    LOL!!! That was NEVER at issue. Wyoming gets noted, because more people live in DC than in Wyoming and DC doesn't get ANY congressmen - even though congress rules DC in important ways that it does NOT rule states. It's a case of government without representation of the governed.

    I also noted that Puerto Rico is nearing 4 million and that those born there are American citizens. Puerto Rico is also ruled by the US congress, yet has NO representation. In fact, they can't vote for the president who makes decisions about them.

    As you will note, that has nothing to do with the EC.

    And, please remember that I have said several times that the inequity of the EC is NOT the largest issue in American elections - even though it has overridden the popular vote in 2 of the past 7 elections - 8 years of presidents the majority voted against!
     
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    That's because the district of columbia isn't a state. Only states have representatives and senators.
     
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    Just looked it up (think I wouldn't)

    Population of Washington D.C


    Surprised 600,000 people roughly same as Wyoming

    Washington, D.C./Population

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    633,427
    2012
     
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    Oh, and there is no such thing as "the popular vote for the president". Only the electors appointed by the several sovereign states vote for the president. Nobody else does.
     
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    Population of Vermont compared to Wyoming


    Each have three EC votes

    Vermont has more people than Wyoming.
     
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    DUH!!!

    That doesn't make taxation without representation any better.

    It's a serious problem that should be fixed.
     
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    What's your point?
     
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    There absolutely IS a count of the popular vote. Sheesh!

    I think what you mean is that we use the EC count to pick the president - which surely everyone in the USA knows very well.
     
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    George Washington chose the tract for DC to be a square, 10 miles on a side.

    SO: Why is it not 10 miles on a side today???
     
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    The only reason people attack Wyoming is because of some silly television show.

    That's ignorance on a epic scale.

    Sorry

    6 states have only three EC votes and the district of Columbia
     
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    What's your point?

    Every house of representatives have one vote roughly 600,000 to 700,000
     
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    It's not a very large area. Evacuation?
     
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    Popular vote for the president? Can you point to the article and section of the treaty that describes this popular vote?
     
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    There is a significant reason that congress ceded back to Virginia a large section of DC.

    And, that reason applies to the existing portion as well.
     
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    There is no treaty covering this topic.
     
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    All accounts I read is everybody who can leave D.C. does and moves to Virginia
     
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    The treaty describes the method for choosing the president of the general government of the union. Can you point to the article and section of the treaty that describes this popular vote?
     
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    No. It was because America needed that segment to be economically successful, and it was crystal clear that wouldn't happen as long as congress owned that land in Virginia.

    The same is true for the rest of DC. Only a small portion is needed for the US government. The remainder needs to be ceded to a state or made a state so that the people are represented and economic interests of the people may be addressed.

    We have representation by the people for VERY important reasons. That was the reason for our revolution, for example.
     
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    Yes. Having no representation in the government that rules the people is a terrible thing.

    Suggesting that kind of government can be successful is nonsense.
     
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    Good idea. Divide it up and cede all of it to the surrounding states. Problem solved.
     
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    Exactly!

    Woo hoo - I think we made it!
     

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