9 Things Truthers can NEVER explain

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  1. Soupnazi

    Soupnazi Well-Known Member

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    There would be NOTHING to seperate the wing tips BEFORE they struck the surface of the building.

    Smaller mass is not as relevant as velocity. A BB from an air gun will only sting you unless it hits you in the eye. Accelerate it to 100 miles an hour and it will kill you in dramatic fashion. 300 MPH the damage is even more dramatic etc. This is why we see things like playing cards and plastic straws driven into and even through trees or telephone poles by tornadoes. This is also why satellites and spacecraft face a very real threat from small objects of lesser mass such as debris from other spacecraft. A small piece of fragile aluminum foil can cause CATOSTROPHIC damage when it or the other object is strikes is traveling at great speeds which orbiting objects move at. The Planes were not traveling at those speeds but their velocity was very high negating the idiotic explanation you give.


    Yes you have dodged and used the term erroneously because your conclusion is empty of logic.
     
  2. Stndown

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    There is none. ZERO.
     
  3. genericBob

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    How about:
    the leading edge of the wing encountering two 4" thick steel reinforced concrete decks edge on.
    Would that not structurally compromise the wing and make it prone to breaking?
    Note the pix in the OP of RE: No Planes and click on the image to get the enlarged version,
    the wings are a swept back design so the wing tips would be the last bit of the whole wing
    structure to strike the tower wall, after much of the wing structure had already been destroyed.

    and on the subject of super high speeds, there still is no proof that any airliner
    can be operated ( "power dive" mode or what ) at such high speeds so near sea level.

    and speed alone is no guarantee of penetration, "FLT175" was shown striking the
    south tower with an obvious angular displacement from true perpendicular to the wall.
     
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    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    You have an odd notion of what 'zero' is..
     
  5. Stndown

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    Same deference you have to anything 'official', I guess?
     
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    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    Nope..
     
  7. Stndown

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    Yes Sir.
     
  8. Hannibal

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    There's a good boy. Know your role.
     
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    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    /Telling me what I think now,boss?
     
  10. genericBob

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    All of the above questions involve WHO & WHY
    when in fact we really do not have a handle on WHAT
    happened, some people will insist that an airliner struck
    the Pentagon, and others understand physics & logic all
    too well to be taken in by the side-show & cheep tricks
    played by the perpetrators. Lets face it people the whole
    attack by radical Arabs story is a lie.
    Before people attack me for "trying to shift the blame away from
    the guilty party" Please think about this, the vast majority of
    Muslims do NOT want war, they do not want the destruction &
    conflict. I oppose the minority of Muslims who do embrace violence
    as a way of making their point ( whatever that point may be )

    There is something I'd like to point out by way of a bit of evidence,
    note that in many of these pretty picture book sorts of collections
    of pictures from Ground Zero, there are box columns seen in these
    pictures and the ends are visible, and it is as if somebody had simply
    gone in and removed the bolts, because the ends show the 4 bolt-holes
    where it had been connected to another box column. Nice neat round
    holes, with nice neat flat ends to the box columns.Now give this a bit of
    thought, if there had been a catastrophic failure of the structure,
    there would be the bolts holding box columns together still holding on
    when the structure was failing and thus one could rightly expect gross
    deformation of the box column in the area where it was bolted to the
    next box column. Why are there so many box columns that do not have
    any deformation of the ends where they were bolted together, but instead
    are simply disconnected as if the bolts were made to disappear?

    once the WHAT is nailed down, then we can ask "WHO & WHY"
     
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    Well, considering there is not evidence of any explosive material...you would need to provide that first.
     
  12. genericBob

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    Who actually looked for evidence of explosives and when
    and how did they document their work?
     
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    In the link to the PENTTBOM report.
     
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    http://www.nist.gov/el/disasterstudies/wtc/faqs_wtc7.cfm

     
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    http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/ten-years-after-the-fbi-since-9-11/by-the-numbers

     
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    Wonderful, and in all of this, does the NIST at any time state
    "we tested a sample from Ground Zero in the following manner
    and the test result was negative for explosive or explosive residue" ?
     
  19. Hannibal

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    Just because it isn't worded exactly as you want it to be?

    Don't be obtuse.
     
  20. genericBob

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    Wonderful, first you post a bit from the NIST
    that BTW did NOT test for explosives, and after I answer,
    you post a bit from the FBI that allegedly did test for explosives
    at the "FLT77" crash site, but are there any details of this testing?
    maybe ... maybe not ....

    My original statement about the box columns stands and given the
    fact that NIST did NOT test for explosives at the WTC site, its a given
    that corruption is in action here.
     
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    The short version is that there IS NONE (otherwise they'd post it). First, they say they didn't test for it because they had no need to look for it, and then they say they did but somehow it's buried in some supposed link that ultimately verifies it but, they can't highlight it for us. I guess we're back to the first version?
     
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    It's been linked, sourced and posted, Boss.
     
  23. genericBob

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    Does anyone have any link to any *.gov
    site that documents the testing for explosives or explosive residue
    at either ground zero or the Pentagon on 9/11/2001?
     
  24. Hannibal

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    Read the PENTTBOM report from the FBI.

    I keep pointing this out to you.
     
  25. genericBob

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    I can only assume that this indicates pictures taken by FBI or
    possibly photographers who were on contract to the FBI.
    and as a citizen & taxpayer in this land, I would like to have
    access to these pix, where are they and if they are being kept
    secret, WHY are they being kept secret?

    Check this out -
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNNzwe4OF8s

    good stuff!
     

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