A challenge for Trump supporters (current and former)

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  1. Darthcervantes

    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    so 5 out of 6 cases were due to mail in votes and that doesn’t set off a red flag?
    Is that your logic for everything?
    If someone gets murdered do you say that’s only 0.000000000000000000000000001 percent of the population?
    Again, I thank you for this enlightenment
     
  2. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    For election results? No. Not in the least. Not when the total is 6 to begin with. Anyone capable of critical thought has to laugh at the idea that they do.

    If I only had evidence that 6 people had been murdered in total, then no, any commonality between the remaining 5 wouldn't mean much when it comes to the rest of the country. Perhaps learn what "sample sizes" are.

    No one is saying that these 6 individuals shouldn't be charged. They should. Stop shifting the goalposts. What all rational people are saying is that 3 individuals (remember, the other 3 were Trump supporters) . . . and that's 3 individuals AT MOST . . . do not demonstrate the election was stolen. Remember how that's what you were originally claiming? Of course you don't.

    You'd understand more if you quit desperately shifting the goalposts. Your argument that the election was stolen has been destroyed, revealed to be another attempt by you to substitute emotion for fact. Since you can't win the "election was stolen" debate, you try changing the subject to something else entirely. "Don't these 6 cases matter?" Sure they do. But they don't change the results of the election.
     
  3. Noone

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    Do you even know the truth? Benedict Donald was impeached, the second time, on January 13, 2021, while STILL president. :roll:
     
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    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    not shifting anything. You are shifting by trying to say there were only 6 incidents
    5 of 6 is a percentage
    83% to be exact
    So out of all those incidents, 83% were due to mail in ballots and you don’t think that’s a problem?
    Sorry but I can no longer take you seriously
    I’ll save the factual mathematics for someone else and let you get back to your Trump hating
    extravaganza
    Have a great day
     
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  5. yardmeat

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    Please learn what sample sizes are.
    Not with that small of a sample size. Neither could anyone with any kind of statistical education.

    But, hey, let's be braindead for a second and say that 6 is significant. Okay . . . half of those were Trump supporters. According to your logic, we'd have to assume that half of all election fraud in 2020 was due to Trump supporters. Do you see how that's dumber than a sack of hammers?
    Find even one person with any mathematical background at all who supports seeing this small of a sample size as being significant, and we can talk. Until then, you are just making **** up.

    So, to refresh, I told you that you had no evidence of your claim that the election was stolen from Trump. You responded with ~1,200 examples . . . which ended up being, at most, 3 examples. No one with two brain cells to rub together can call that an adequate sample size. I'd get fired if I tried passing off that small of a sample size at work. On the spot.
     
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    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    ahh I see. So now the narrative switches from “there was no fraud” to “there was but it doesn’t matter”
    Oh how convenient
    It all makes sense now!
    Thank you for clearing that up
     
  7. yardmeat

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    Fake argument. Straw man. I never claimed there was NO fraud. Why do you insist on making that **** up? I pointed out 6 instances of fraud. You know what you are saying isn't true. I said there wasn't enough to change the results of the election. You claimed you had evidence that there was enough fraud to steal the election. You produced evidence of, at most, 3 incidents of fraud in favor of Trump and 3 instances in favor of Biden. One day those goal posts are going to get to heavy for you to shift. You were challenged on your claim that the election was stolen. You claimed to have evidence. You were proven incorrect. Either produce the evidence, move on, or continue revealing that it was never about evidence for you -- only an article of religious faith.
     
  8. independentthinker

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    Sure it was. The House can abuse their power any way they wish with a simple 218-217 vote. They impeached Trump with no evidence and then claimed it was up to the Senate to find the evidence. They even impeached a president who was no longer president. In both cases, the House impeached Trump knowing full well that they were not going to get a conviction either time. But, they abused their power for political gain because they could. That makes it a sham. Just remember, when Republicans take over the House after the midterms, they will then be able to do whatever the hell they want with a simple vote of 218-217.
     
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    Real question, and I wish it wasn't . . . but this is apparently the point we are at: Who was President on January 13, 2021, the day Trump was impeached a second time?
     
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    Nope, trump was still impeached, no sham.
     
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    LOL. He had already lost the election and Biden was taking office on January 20. Or, don't you remember that? And yet the House impeached him anyway, only because Pelosi and the left wanted to make sure the history books showed that Trump was impeached twice. But, the joke was on them because the history books will show that both parties are so partisan that they will do anything to attack the other party and that Trump survived two impeachments.
     
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    How is that funny? Benedict Donald lived in infamy as the only president to be impeached ... TWICE!
     
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    Yes, we have already talked about how the House abused their power by impeaching a president twice, knowing full well that there was not enough evidence to remove Trump from office.
     
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    What goes around comes around. All you are doing, like Harry Reid did in the past, is to teach Republicans how to do things after they take over after the midterms. With nothing but a 218-217 vote, Republicans in the House will be able to abuse their power in any way they see fit, including impeaching a president numerous times, impeaching past presidents, witch hunt investigations, and in the Senate, the filibuster will be eliminated so that the Senate can do whatever the hell they want with a 50/50 vote, add seats to the Supreme Court, and add red states to the union, not to mention addressing voting laws and gerrymandering until the cows come home. Is that really what you want?
     
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    So you're just confirming that repubs really are that corrupt and evil. Got it.
     
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    History will show how divided the country is at this time and how the House abused their power to impeach a president twice, knowing full well that Trump had no chance of being removed from office and that it was all done for political power. Yes, history will show that Trump was impeached twice and not removed from office twice.
     
  17. yardmeat

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    Who was President during the second impeachment? I gave you the date.
     
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    So you're just confirming that Democrats really are that corrupt and evil. Got it.
     
  19. Cybred

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    Nope. Evidence say otherwise.

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    Yes, we have already talked about how the House abused their power by impeaching a president twice, knowing full well that there was not enough evidence to remove Trump from office. Just remember, when Republicans take over the House after the midterms, the shoe will be on the other foot.
     
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    Well, just remember, what goes around comes around. The midterms are right around the corner and the Democrats continue to show Republicans how to do things in politics. So, get ready for the end of the filibuster in the Senate, get ready for witch hunt investigations, get ready for impeachments, get ready for past presidents to be impeached, get ready for more seats on the Supreme Court, get ready for red states to be added to the Union, get ready for election laws to be passed, and get ready for more gerrymandering. And, it will all be legal, just like the Democrats do. And, you won't be allowed first amendment rights because it will be classified as hate speech and you will be jailed for any protests trying to overthrow the legal government.
     
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    So more of the same from republicans. Got it.
     
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    Well, we both know why you aren't answering the direct question.
     
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    Yes, the Democrats have been doing it for five years now and come the midterms the Republicans will be doing what the Democrats taught them how to do.
     
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    I have answered your question several times but you just read what you want to read.
     

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